the only benefit for them is long term mutual suport

but like everything in life, it's what you make it

which is also an arguemnt in favor of homosexual marriage

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM thats my point with gays

an instituation is only good as the people who run it

but that does not exist in the current legal framework Jack

It does here

your partner can leave you at will anyway

in what nation

i don't think these is a valid argument against the same legal privledges

so you're not getting that

but life isn't just about law

it's about values it's about community

Well there's no no fault divorces in the uk

law alone does not a society make

oh come on

they can totally leave u at any point

unless u ARE in a totalitarian state

I mean they can, but Idk why that's a point against marriage

then, law is all you need

it's saying that the long term stability you put foreword is not actually granted by the current itteration of how marriage works anyway

so you're not getting that

even if you get the right to marry

Unless you want to force people to do something they'll always be able to leave

if divorce was harder, the argument would look different

well , isn't that an idea alot of ggirls used to have?

Divorce is hard

it is

Someone needs to be at fault

that marriage was a magic fix for all the problems

not entirely true

u only get out of it what you put into it

or what the other person feels obligated to provid based on upbringing

that last caveat is what i find sad and it really the different between the East and the West

The man, after making that contract, turns his efforts to providing

But regardless, I would object to classifying homosexual marriage as marriage anyway. It does lack the procreation element, and yes marriage of steriles does as well, and the arguemnt applies to them too). They share some of the social function, but not all.

So they should ideally be a distinct category.

in the East, harems form because of resource scarcity and their IS no agreement of fidelity

so it becomes a matter of making an example of those that might take what is yours

At least you're honest and not a complete hypocrite