Yeah we’re just working inside that frame work

but then why does he go and run for MEP?

other then to promote hi sstardom

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM spur of the moment I would guess.

Sargon is a man of Principles

That is childish

It was to make a point

@Sham00e shilling much?

Principles without artifice don;t win

Muslims would be left to their own devices causing no trouble for us in the West without Israel. ISIS literally has connections to Israel, an obvious example out in the open is via White Helmets. So the terrorist groups they support and terrorist states they ally with like Saudi Arabia are the ones that cause trouble for us as Westerners while they oppose more Nationalistic Muslim nations like Iran and Syria who are linked to no terrorism in the west and actually go after terrorists in the Middle East. @Louis

God helps those who help themselves

all that shit

Listen I’ll admit I don’t hate principals or against individualism, I just don’t think it’s how we win

No, I genuinely believe it @Louis

And I do think there has to be a limit

I think that Principles are very important to winning.

@Ϻ14ᛟ but why does it matter? Oil flows so all is good

One needs to have strong ideals, yes. One also needs to know how to make those ideal win

they wont win just like that

unless it's ULTRA long term

Well obviously

I have to disagree, look at conservatives, what have they conserved?

And that is also valuable

Low wages?

but not strictly political

Big corporations?

Mass immigration?

Depends on the conservative.

@Snake UK right?

USA

Wat

conservatives in Murica are big Liberals 1st and foremost, so they are not about conserving much

secondly

Individual Liberty. The traditions of the Nation.

I do mean ultra long term

like

Mass immigration conservative?

The rest maybe but mass immigration?

if society collapses because Dems fuck up so much

@Louis I’m saying they failed

And yes there is conservatives for it