Message from @shrikeclaw

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2019-08-13 06:11:15 UTC  

@Samaritan dead cops is unfortunate though tbh

2019-08-13 06:11:34 UTC  

otherwise the categories are too vague

2019-08-13 06:11:48 UTC  

That's part of the reason the media ignores gang violence but not mass shootings

2019-08-13 06:11:48 UTC  

I'm serious, this is part of statistical analysis

2019-08-13 06:12:45 UTC  

they love to mess around with categories and definitions, puts it in the unreliable category

2019-08-13 06:12:47 UTC  

Yeah I'm believing nothing without a breakdown of all the individual cases being used in that stat

2019-08-13 06:12:59 UTC  

After browsing it for like 5 mins then I'd know if its legit or not

2019-08-13 06:13:12 UTC  

I think all of have seen too many episodes like this

2019-08-13 06:13:17 UTC  

the incidents are all listed

2019-08-13 06:13:21 UTC  

crap on snopes

2019-08-13 06:13:21 UTC  

starting on

2019-08-13 06:13:23 UTC  

Apparently the 2018 stats used Parkland, even though the shooter was Hispanic.

2019-08-13 06:13:25 UTC  
2019-08-13 06:13:33 UTC  

SOURCE: ADL

2019-08-13 06:13:35 UTC  

all sorts of stuff they makes claims for and no data

2019-08-13 06:13:39 UTC  

@Arthur Grayborn how does being hispanic disqualify you from being rightwing?

2019-08-13 06:13:55 UTC  

That's like linking the daily stormer and being expected to be taken seriously

2019-08-13 06:14:37 UTC  

either way, the left dominates the culture war. the people who take part in mass murders typically do so because they feel they are either ostracized by society, suicidal, or unable to change things otherwise. this doesnt apply to the left, because they are winning the culture war. you're not gonna bottle up resentment and cause a massacre if the media favors you, the politics favor you, and you can socially decimate someone with a charge of racism or sexism, true or not they may be, to get your way.

2019-08-13 06:14:52 UTC  

i'm trusting the ADL right now because i can't find anything on left-wing extremist killings in 2018

2019-08-13 06:15:00 UTC  

Demetrius Alexander Brown

Black. Pretty sure he's not a fan of Richard Spencer, or Donald Trump, or anyone on the right. Extremist or not.

2019-08-13 06:15:24 UTC  

The Bush attack notwithstanding, white supremacists were responsible for the great majority of extremist-related killings in 2018,

2019-08-13 06:15:53 UTC  

ok, how many white supremacist killings do you remember happening in 2018

2019-08-13 06:16:09 UTC  

I've been over this before

2019-08-13 06:16:10 UTC  

Oh, I just found it @smiley.

A lot of these murders just involved extremists, but weren't perpetrated for political reasons.

2019-08-13 06:16:16 UTC  

Right-wing extremists were responsible for 49 (or 98%) of the 50 domestic extremist-related killings in 2018, with white supremacists alone accounting for 39 (or 78%) of those murders. Anti-government extremists (primarily sovereign citizens) were responsible for eight (or 16%) of the deaths.

2019-08-13 06:16:22 UTC  

Lets just go with the idea that most attacks are by the right wing

2019-08-13 06:16:36 UTC  

how many right wing shooters do you remember?

2019-08-13 06:16:41 UTC  

It'd be like tracking down every murder perpetrated by a communist in a given year, regardless of whether or not it had a political motivation behind it, and then using it to scree about communism.

2019-08-13 06:16:50 UTC  

of course more attacks are by right wing

2019-08-13 06:16:54 UTC  

This is because the far right are shunned by everyone and should be and so they feel they have no power other then committing attacks

2019-08-13 06:16:54 UTC  

did i just spill my beans to you

2019-08-13 06:16:56 UTC  

for nothing

2019-08-13 06:16:58 UTC  

there are 49 of them and if *all* of the right wing shootings are publicized to hell

2019-08-13 06:17:09 UTC  

The left doesn't commit terror attacks because they are in fucking power

2019-08-13 06:17:15 UTC  

I don't remember 49

2019-08-13 06:17:26 UTC  

Antifa

2019-08-13 06:17:27 UTC  

The dems are rejecting socialists the same way the republicans are rejecting natsoc

2019-08-13 06:17:29 UTC  

either way, the left dominates the culture war. the people who take part in mass murders typically do so because they feel they are either ostracized by society, suicidal, or unable to change things otherwise. this doesnt apply to the left, because they are winning the culture war. you're not gonna bottle up resentment and cause a massacre if the media favors you, the politics favor you, and you can socially decimate someone with a charge of racism or sexism, true or not they may be, to get your way.
ahem

2019-08-13 06:17:31 UTC  

The far right should have about 2-3 million people in it, given that it's about 1% of the population.

If all that could be attributed to them is ~50 deaths, then you could compose an entire nation out of them and you'd have one of the lowest homicide rates on Earth.

2019-08-13 06:17:46 UTC  

@Spooky Melon communists and such aren't winning the culture war

2019-08-13 06:17:56 UTC  

arguably more vilified than people like fascists