@Arthur Grayborn because it doesnt really matter to the political agenda if gang bangers are causing shootings, they care if some incel shoots up a walmart because the people attending the walmart aren't necessarily........ combatants

arm the nukes

If you put that on a map btw its literally like a dozen red dots across qa massive America canvass

in a gang war, both sides are hostile

in a mass shooting in a place like a walmart or a club.......

one side is

yeah, but what are the actual parameters for those?

Bystanders get hit in gang shootouts all the time and a lot of dead cops what its really about is

i showed you

@smiley - Most terror plots fail. 2018 had several Islamic terror plots, and they all failed spectacularly. If you average it out over several years, Muslims are more dangerous. It's just that most of their plots fuck up.

Like the subway bomber that only managed to blow up his own nutsack, or the Christmas bomber who only managed to light his own ass on fire. Every now and then someone succeed and takes out a lot of people. Right wing extremists tend to have a slow and steady drumbeat, a few dozen people per year, which is still nothing compared to just the city of Chicago.

you have to have a selection methodolgy

The mass shootings are designed by the shooters TO BE POLITICAL STATMENTS

@Samaritan dead cops is unfortunate though tbh

otherwise the categories are too vague

That's part of the reason the media ignores gang violence but not mass shootings

I'm serious, this is part of statistical analysis

they love to mess around with categories and definitions, puts it in the unreliable category

Yeah I'm believing nothing without a breakdown of all the individual cases being used in that stat

After browsing it for like 5 mins then I'd know if its legit or not

I think all of have seen too many episodes like this

the incidents are all listed

crap on snopes

starting on

Apparently the 2018 stats used Parkland, even though the shooter was Hispanic.

page 23 (https://www.adl.org/media/12480/download)

SOURCE: ADL

all sorts of stuff they makes claims for and no data

@Arthur Grayborn how does being hispanic disqualify you from being rightwing?

That's like linking the daily stormer and being expected to be taken seriously

either way, the left dominates the culture war. the people who take part in mass murders typically do so because they feel they are either ostracized by society, suicidal, or unable to change things otherwise. this doesnt apply to the left, because they are winning the culture war. you're not gonna bottle up resentment and cause a massacre if the media favors you, the politics favor you, and you can socially decimate someone with a charge of racism or sexism, true or not they may be, to get your way.

i'm trusting the ADL right now because i can't find anything on left-wing extremist killings in 2018

Demetrius Alexander Brown

Black. Pretty sure he's not a fan of Richard Spencer, or Donald Trump, or anyone on the right. Extremist or not.

The Bush attack notwithstanding, white supremacists were responsible for the great majority of extremist-related killings in 2018,

ok, how many white supremacist killings do you remember happening in 2018

I've been over this before

Oh, I just found it @smiley.

A lot of these murders just involved extremists, but weren't perpetrated for political reasons.

Right-wing extremists were responsible for 49 (or 98%) of the 50 domestic extremist-related killings in 2018, with white supremacists alone accounting for 39 (or 78%) of those murders. Anti-government extremists (primarily sovereign citizens) were responsible for eight (or 16%) of the deaths.

Lets just go with the idea that most attacks are by the right wing

how many right wing shooters do you remember?

It'd be like tracking down every murder perpetrated by a communist in a given year, regardless of whether or not it had a political motivation behind it, and then using it to scree about communism.