Message from @system11

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2019-07-11 23:25:37 UTC  

Ehh not shit. Just different.

2019-07-11 23:25:47 UTC  

Also really depends on the distro you want to go with.

2019-07-11 23:26:17 UTC  

Tried a few different ones, but mostly they suffered from the thing linux has suffered since i first tried it 20 years ago - poor hardware support

2019-07-11 23:26:38 UTC  

That and Steam linux support... just isn't there yet

2019-07-11 23:26:54 UTC  

Better than it was the last time i tried it, but still not there yet

2019-07-11 23:26:55 UTC  

ive been using linux so long i made my own distro back in the slackware days. i dont use it because i have to use speech recognition software and it behaves better on windows

2019-07-11 23:26:59 UTC  

To be fair, most computer users aren’t running Linux.

2019-07-11 23:27:16 UTC  

dont use it at home*

2019-07-11 23:27:45 UTC  

that and the unholy hell which is current desktop offerings. what a damn mess

2019-07-11 23:28:08 UTC  

one of those times 'everyone doing their own thing' just hurts the platform

2019-07-11 23:30:52 UTC  

I found it frustrating as the last thing I wanted to do after a day at work is come home and have to fuck around trying to build drivers and edit config files

2019-07-11 23:31:19 UTC  

THat's very much a thing for teenagers and bright eyed young idealists like Coolitic

2019-07-11 23:34:07 UTC  

not really, my girlfriend is computer illiterate, i built her a desktop machine, she just uses firefox and some awful flash games

2019-07-11 23:34:18 UTC  

it just works

2019-07-11 23:34:52 UTC  

everyone doing their own thing hurting the platform, you say?

2019-07-11 23:35:10 UTC  

yes, that can be a thing

2019-07-11 23:35:35 UTC  

kinda like everyone making their own gaming launcher to make their titles exclusive and unnecessarily difficult to obtain and manage, all the while running continuously in the background to mine data?

2019-07-11 23:36:16 UTC  

golly gee if only there was some platform that took a relatively hands-off approach as a game vendor and aggregate

2019-07-11 23:37:05 UTC  

thats the worst analogy ive seen this week

2019-07-11 23:37:22 UTC  

But it applies all the same.

2019-07-11 23:37:34 UTC  

you're likening applications to frameworks that support applications

2019-07-11 23:37:57 UTC  

You say that as if it can't be applicable.

2019-07-11 23:38:12 UTC  

it isn't even in the same ballpark.

2019-07-11 23:38:17 UTC  

But it is

2019-07-11 23:39:48 UTC  

no it isnt, you dont need game 'launchers' at all, you just require a way to download the installer. now if someone decided to write their own html version and you needed a special vendor specific browser to download it, then you'd have an analogy to work with. that isnt what i suggested or anyone would do though in the case of steam

2019-07-11 23:40:41 UTC  

and its a million miles away from basic shit like "oh, my entire windowing toolkit doesn't work"

2019-07-11 23:41:05 UTC  

Sure you don't *need* them, but in this current age of PC gaming, they are necessary to actually play said games.

2019-07-11 23:41:21 UTC  

Often times you can't play games without some form of DRM, which is bundled in that launcher.

2019-07-11 23:41:36 UTC  

I'm not talking about the ideal.

2019-07-11 23:41:40 UTC  

I mean realistically.

2019-07-11 23:42:02 UTC  

Steam is like a water or electric company. Having 5 or 6 different water companies in a moderately sized town will only serve to confuse and agitate the average consumer. They sell a product, a commodity, in this case water. The only thing they do different is the methods and the chemicals used to treat the water. Online vendors sell games to play. They might have different methods of achieve that goal but at the end of the day, a copy of For Honor sold on steam, is just as playable as a copy sold from Ubisoft or EA or whoever the fuck sells it.

2019-07-11 23:42:17 UTC  

only ones you bought via that proprietry delivery system. you can still buy games on dvd. you can still buy software from the makers on shop sites, etc. is steam your entire gaming life or something? its the only way you could come up with such a myopic analogy

2019-07-11 23:42:44 UTC  

definitely strayed into 'lol whatever', ill get back to my game

2019-07-11 23:42:59 UTC  

It's not my entire life, no.

2019-07-11 23:43:16 UTC  

But it certainly is the most dominant presence in my gaming career.

2019-07-11 23:45:42 UTC  

And frankly as much as I hate a single company having a monopoly on the market like they do, it's kind of necessary to be feasible. Lest you have to go through the hassle of swimming through bookmarks to get updated versions of games or some other method to get updated, especially if those games don't include a launcher in the install (a game launcher, not the storefront). All I'm saying is that steam brings convenience to the table, and just like Eccles doesnt want to fuck with Linux all night long, I don't want to have to spend all night manually installing updates for the games I want to play every time Christmas comes around.

2019-07-11 23:47:39 UTC  

Only beef I had with Steam was their EOL methodology. As a time-poor boomer and sperg, it should be obvious to understand why. It's a shame you and Coolitic were so antagonistic

2019-07-11 23:47:59 UTC  

But I still use Steam, and am reasonably content with it

2019-07-11 23:48:00 UTC  

Yeah forgive me for that.

2019-07-11 23:48:11 UTC  

I sometimes fly off the rails. It isn't healthy for me

2019-07-11 23:48:11 UTC  

I'm sorry for shoving a EULA up your anus