Central planned economy is just a nightmare, you can't really do it.

Because if everyone owns something then what the fuck is the point of a manager

You get into so much problem trying to plan a nation level economy.

Well, the manager is there so someone can get punished if things go wrong

collective ownership also just

goes against human nature

So under communism your goal was to not get punished, not to produce optimally

like, if you don't own something why do you give a shit what happens to it

Two people cannot control the same item at the same time

^

You get ineffective resource management, no price to rule by, corruption.

It's a shit hole.

The other issue of redistribution of wealth

Firstly

the problem of scale.

Redistribution of wealth is the less dysfunctional part of socialism

At the end of the day if you take that 99% of the money in 1% of the populations hands and divide it among the other 99% of the population the actual amount of money they get is fuck all.

I did the math on Bill Gates and it was like 1,000 dollars per person

That's minimum wage's monthly income.

collectivization doesn't necessarily = state ownership

Yeah, and also another things

That and 99% of their shit is physical property

which costs too much to be divided

And lastly

It’s a one time deal also

Money has to be concentrated to actually be worth anything.

Nothing in the socialist definition says that wealth must be redistributed to the less fortunate

If i own an office building that's worth a lot

It can go to the wealthy instead

I can do a lot with an office building

if I own one fuckin square foot of an office building

its completely useless.

and also a beurocratic nightmare to even use the building now.

what is this supposed to be analogous to

Yeah idk either, this can also happen under capitalism

Its supposed to be literal.
The building is owned by someone.
You redistribute the wealth of that person including the building.

Also there’s the matter of investment versus consumption spending. The rich would invest more than poor people with the Rich’s resources.

How.

The building costs too much to give it all to one person

its also not useful if you don't own a big chunk of it.

Whatever is owned doesn't neccessarily have to be used