Message from @ETBrooD
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no you don't
Redistribution of wealth doesn't mean equal wealth
Depends on what you mean by collective ownership
If you have a car, and 100 people own it, try to use the car.
I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of socialism
there are cooperative businesses with literally millions of employees
that's a lot more than 3 or 4
Socialism is supposed to plug all the holes basically so no one has to suffer, that's the theory at least
It's not supposed to make everyone equal
So do they pay a fee when they join the company to buy part of it
How the fuck does everyone owning everything in the entire company work
Someone bought the equipment.
someone handles the money and signs paychecks
It doesn't need to be owned by everyone, how often do I have to explain that
Socialism doesn't say anything about equality
Then who is the 'collective'
yeah usually the owners vote on the managerial staff
The goal of socialism is to establish communism
a system in which everyone is equal
and delegate managerial duties to them
not necessarily
you're speaking of marxism specifically
In a system with no property, no government, and no money
From each according to their ability to each according to their needs - that's not a matter of equality, nothing in there says that
Socialism and Communism sound like Hinduism but lame and no market economy.
well socialism doesn't mean there can't be a market economy
I bet if you asked Marx right now, he'd probably scoff at the idea of equality
depending on how it's defined at least
"From each according to their ability to each according to their needs" is advocating for equality of outcome dude
No it isn't
Not really
the relationship between marx and egalitarianism is a complicated one
If one produces more, and the other needs more, the extra the one produced goes to the other
it makes no mention of any exchange
it just goes.
It’s more the anarchists that are strictly egalitarian.
No, it's says Each according to their ability.
FROM each
>From each according to their ability
But also
>To each according to their needs
Your needs determine what you gain, you're not supposed to get more than you need
yeah