Message from @HAM

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2019-07-17 03:40:45 UTC  

COuld you try again in English?

2019-07-17 03:41:14 UTC  

well, my point was more just a meme than anything

2019-07-17 03:42:02 UTC  

No

2019-07-17 03:45:12 UTC  

Well I mean since you brought it up let's watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtACBI1Txrc

2019-07-17 03:46:49 UTC  

Holy shit, I actually watched it, and it's dumber than I thought it would be.

2019-07-17 03:47:43 UTC  

Like, I figured he would just rehash some wiki tier historical documentation about the details of the holocaust, but instead he literally just argues that Hitler being a socialist means he had to have killed 6 million Jews.

2019-07-17 03:48:06 UTC  

Not even that it would be in line with his mission, but that it must have happened.

2019-07-17 03:48:47 UTC  

You weren't paying attention I see.

2019-07-17 03:48:57 UTC  

Basically all he's establishing is *motive*

2019-07-17 03:49:26 UTC  

"Tryanny"

2019-07-17 03:49:29 UTC  

"Tranny"

2019-07-17 03:49:32 UTC  

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2019-07-17 03:50:17 UTC  

I'll watch it in a minute but my first contention without even watching it is that holocaust "deniers" don't call themselves 'deniers' they call themselves revisionist.
The genuine historians never claim to deny the Holocaust but simply refute it's details, such as gas chambers, furher orders, etc.

2019-07-17 03:51:45 UTC  

My contention is less that I'm really sold on any particular narrative of what happened, and more that I'm concerned with how aggressively anyone trying to argue counter to the mainstream narrative is silenced.

2019-07-17 03:51:55 UTC  

YEs it was a video about motives. If you want an actual exhaustive account of where the killing happened and why I would suggest Snyder's *Bloodlands*.

2019-07-17 03:53:43 UTC  

My suspicion, is that there were executions of Jews, probably even on a massive scale. Much of the death was likely due to starvation and disease however, and the gas chambers themselves, particularly their widescale implementation is a highly suspicious detail, as is the mass incineration.

2019-07-17 03:54:14 UTC  

The specific *number* is also highly suspicious, but it's perfectly possible there were indeed millions killed.

2019-07-17 03:54:23 UTC  

Exactly. If you're in Europe they'll lock you up.
If you're in America (like with David Cole) they'll have Jewish Terrorist put money out for your head.

2019-07-17 03:55:00 UTC  

And if you're publishing books on Amazon, they'll intimidate the company into taking them down. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

2019-07-17 03:56:02 UTC  

I believe it's highly likely certain details which have been enshrined in the official narrative are largely embellishments. Simply what endured after the more fanciful accounts were whittled away.

2019-07-17 03:56:04 UTC  

I also find contention that oh look all the gas chambers are in the area occupied by the soviets after the war. Oh look the so called gas chambers where actually rebuilt by said soviets after the war.

2019-07-17 03:57:09 UTC  

It's also however possible that certain deceptive self-professed survivors are undermining the credibility of the story by making up bullshit. And that for the most part, the core events still occurred.

2019-07-17 03:57:28 UTC  

Even including the gas chambers.

2019-07-17 04:00:37 UTC  

There is some exaggeration on the gas chambers. 6 million is a lot and they had all those slavs, partisans, and gays to kill too. This again comes down to *logistics*. See there were a lot more Jews in Poland and Ukraine than there were in Germany. *logistically* it is quite an effort to transport prisoners to extermination centers. Much more convenient to just round them up and shoot them where you find them. So they developed the Einsatzgruppen to trail behind the army to round up and murder jews along the way.

2019-07-17 04:02:14 UTC  

WW2 was practical a Jewish victory not for the actual reason for its war declaration.
The allies declared war to secure Polish independence. WW2 ends and Polish independence is no where to be seen.
Instead the Zionist go off to the desert and form an illegitimate state and can have goyims imprisoned all across Europe for simply disagreeing with the magic number.

2019-07-17 04:02:57 UTC  

Geting murdered was all part of the nefarious plan eh?

2019-07-17 04:03:51 UTC  

Well, first off, don't assume the people actually making the plans are the same ones who are actually being subjected to the negative consequences of those plans.

2019-07-17 04:04:27 UTC  

Second of all, "Of coursh."

2019-07-17 04:06:03 UTC  

WEll I mean there's also the question of where you find evidence of this nefarious plan. The Einsatzgruppen were part of Gruppenplan Ost which was fairly well doccumented by the Nazis.......

2019-07-17 04:06:31 UTC  

What and the millions of jew that up and went missing......

2019-07-17 04:07:37 UTC  

That went missing, and then suddenly a whole bunch of jews reappeared, probably just bred really fast, I guess

2019-07-17 04:09:11 UTC  

For one I never much said it was part of some "nefarious" plan. It's simply that Jews won the war and reaped the rewards. Jewish influence can never be questioned ever again else you're an antisemite by default.

2019-07-17 04:10:12 UTC  

Whole bunch of jew appeared where? The population of Israel is 8M and 1/4 of them are Arabs.

2019-07-17 04:10:46 UTC  

I'm just yanking your chain

2019-07-17 04:11:19 UTC  

AH. And HAM is legit retarded then?

2019-07-17 04:11:57 UTC  

Good argument

2019-07-17 04:13:03 UTC  

Not an argument merely an observation. Thanks for the Mollymeme though.....

2019-07-17 04:13:33 UTC  

Bruh

2019-07-17 04:14:54 UTC  

You forgot "muh"

2019-07-17 04:16:30 UTC  

one dollah