Message from @Hexidecimark

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2019-07-24 15:45:38 UTC  

I'm not asking for your opinion really

2019-07-24 15:45:55 UTC  

just on why the process of voting on it makes it a good choice

2019-07-24 15:46:03 UTC  

Viewed in a natural understanding sense, it is simple and obv

2019-07-24 15:46:14 UTC  

(which, not that I think about it, might be the harder question actually, lol)

2019-07-24 15:46:28 UTC  

In a *purely* logical sense

2019-07-24 15:46:42 UTC  

It is a nigh infinitely complex question

2019-07-24 15:47:19 UTC  

Because logic is a tool, not a view on life by itself

2019-07-24 15:47:21 UTC  

(in a purely logical sense there is no meaning, just form - logic is a language, if you use language to describe nothing outside of it there is no meaning)

2019-07-24 15:47:40 UTC  

point is

2019-07-24 15:47:54 UTC  

I think your original answer is actually quite telling

2019-07-24 15:48:08 UTC  

The less base assumptions you have when using logic, the more exponentially complex the process becomes

2019-07-24 15:48:09 UTC  

things are (assumed to be) good because ppl vote on them

2019-07-24 15:48:13 UTC  

that is preposterous

2019-07-24 15:48:13 UTC  

No

2019-07-24 15:48:18 UTC  

That just removes context

2019-07-24 15:49:17 UTC  

Hey DOOM what's a survival instinct

2019-07-24 15:49:26 UTC  

Also

2019-07-24 15:49:30 UTC  

May I also add

2019-07-24 15:49:43 UTC  

You have no arguments *disproving* the idea of rights

2019-07-24 15:49:46 UTC  

@Hexidecimark This is an example, not the point fam.

2019-07-24 15:50:03 UTC  

Okay so then get an actually good example

2019-07-24 15:50:09 UTC  

There is nothing needing to be disproven

2019-07-24 15:50:18 UTC  

There we go

2019-07-24 15:50:19 UTC  

they don;t exist inherently

2019-07-24 15:50:28 UTC  

you need to justify them

2019-07-24 15:50:31 UTC  

Tradition is the default assumption for everything

2019-07-24 15:50:45 UTC  

before I ever need to disprove anything

2019-07-24 15:50:53 UTC  

If you dont have a valid reason to disprove a tradition

2019-07-24 15:50:59 UTC  

Then the tradition reigns supreme

2019-07-24 15:51:05 UTC  

it does

2019-07-24 15:51:25 UTC  

This ensures that complex and time-consuming processes are not repeated unnecessarily

2019-07-24 15:51:44 UTC  

Because you as an individual cannot solve everything

2019-07-24 15:52:03 UTC  

Even society as a whole may not solve everything in their lifetimes

2019-07-24 15:52:48 UTC  

but 1) Liberalism is a very nu tradition, rather unproven over all 2) that is a practical argument, not really about the correctness of it or lack there of 3) this just confirms my assessment that this is just a believed in way of going about things, not a rational way as it claims to be

2019-07-24 15:52:48 UTC  

You understamd the idea of standing on the shoulders of giants, right?

2019-07-24 15:53:05 UTC  

I do, I don;t see how it helps your argument though

2019-07-24 15:53:11 UTC  

voting is a really nu thing

2019-07-24 15:53:14 UTC  

No

2019-07-24 15:53:26 UTC  

Voting existed since Ancient Greeks and Romans

2019-07-24 15:53:34 UTC  

Hell

2019-07-24 15:53:39 UTC  

Voting existed before then too