how are they different?

Context

It's important

I just stated how

pls explain it like u would to a 2 year old

At the very least

I'm clearly not getting it

And this removes some important context

what

context

But it gets *a* point across

Is

That they have varying levels of structural resistance to change

Now this isnt my main point

can you ammend the constitution?

Because I think rights are universal, not just resistant to change

if they are universal, why would you have a way to change em?

But since we can't agree on really basic philosophical ideas, I dunno what else to say

what Idea do we not agree about?

....ughhhhh....

I'm leavin it at that

name it

let it b the last thing u say

what basic philosophical idea, relevant to the issue of rights, don;t we agree about

That the only thing that should "change a right" is our own inability gauge what is correct

That's all I'm gonna say

zealot now thats a word i've not heard in a while

We cannot "agree" about that, because I disagree about weather rights are a good idea. You are assuming your own position to be mine and getting frustrated when it turns out it isn't...

seems pretty apt for some people on the far left

i know i know the right too <:Killme:447578244540268559>

Far left big gay

Chad right-libertarians reign supremeeeeeee

We disagree about the mechanics of your concept... That is literally the base point of the discussion. OFC we disagree about it...

I'm telling u the concept is wrongheaded in that it obfuscates the real value system behind it and claims universality while obviously rejecting it, and u get mad at me because I don't think it should be used...

And you seem to default to tradition as a justification for it

Tradition is an internally *coherent* justification for God, not for a rationalist philosophical concept.

Why is the value system behind a right important if the right itself is beneficial

The entire point is the utility of controlling a governing body's actions by directly setting its scope

This requires no religious component unless you assume people saying 'this seems right based on what we know' is somehow religious in nature

because weather it is beneficial or not is defined by the value system

*whether