Message from @Death in June

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2019-07-26 01:56:00 UTC  

The journal mentioned it is . Ican show you a host of other sources discussing TFP as being primary determinant

2019-07-26 01:56:04 UTC  

show me otherwise

2019-07-26 01:56:07 UTC  

fvcking syria and mexico have some of the highest tfp measures in the world

2019-07-26 01:56:44 UTC  

source ?

2019-07-26 01:57:05 UTC  

Y'all arguing like it's *unusual* for a nation with a healthy industrial base to degrade over time under socialism. That's like half the history of socialism. The other half is places that didn't have an industrial base.....

2019-07-26 01:57:24 UTC  

Its june trying to make that argument

2019-07-26 01:57:29 UTC  

that somehow starting from same place

2019-07-26 01:57:35 UTC  

having 50 years to make progress

2019-07-26 01:57:47 UTC  

and ending up 30 percent of the gdp

2019-07-26 01:57:50 UTC  

is somehow normal

2019-07-26 01:58:59 UTC  

"starting from same place"

2019-07-26 01:59:04 UTC  

again you haven't demonstrated this

2019-07-26 01:59:56 UTC  

Ending up at 30% after 50 years sounds about right. Look at Venezuela's decline in a much shorter period. Fairly normal socialist productivity....

2019-07-26 02:00:30 UTC  

1988

2019-07-26 02:00:32 UTC  

moron

2019-07-26 02:00:36 UTC  

read your own damn graphs

2019-07-26 02:00:44 UTC  

what about 1988

2019-07-26 02:01:11 UTC  

do you think syria, mexico, and brazil were some of the richest countries in the world in 1988?

2019-07-26 02:02:24 UTC  

well first you are using unbelievably outdated stats

2019-07-26 02:02:30 UTC  

why does the date matter

2019-07-26 02:02:38 UTC  

from over 30 years ago

2019-07-26 02:02:39 UTC  

the point is just to show that tfp is not a good proxy for gdp per capita

2019-07-26 02:03:26 UTC  

Total Factor Productivity (TFP) is often considered the primary contributor to GDP Growth Rate.

2019-07-26 02:03:42 UTC  

While other contributing factors include labor inputs, human capital, and physical capital. Total factor productivity measures residual growth in total output of a firm, industry or national economy that cannot be explained by the accumulation of traditional inputs such as labor and capital. Since this cannot be measured directly the process of calculating derives TFP as the residual which accounts for effects on total output not caused by inputs.

It has been shown that there is a historical correlation between TFP and energy conversion efficiency

2019-07-26 02:04:30 UTC  

So it's a predictor of prospective growth speed, not of current development

2019-07-26 02:04:32 UTC  

?

2019-07-26 02:04:39 UTC  

yeah that's what i was about to say

2019-07-26 02:05:13 UTC  

i mean it does predict current development to an extent, but as we can see the amount of development can vary wildly between countries with similar tfp levels

2019-07-26 02:07:10 UTC  

read the first article

2019-07-26 02:07:21 UTC  

it points out that germanies primary determinant is TFP levels

2019-07-26 02:07:28 UTC  

in growth

2019-07-26 02:07:34 UTC  

no

2019-07-26 02:07:37 UTC  

the first journal

2019-07-26 02:07:41 UTC  

not the previous quote

2019-07-26 02:08:19 UTC  

yeah in the journal it's speaking of growth

2019-07-26 02:08:24 UTC  

in the immediate postwar years

2019-07-26 02:18:40 UTC  

this link doesn't work for me

2019-07-26 02:20:05 UTC  

Moreover, our working hypothesis was that in 1957 the East Ger-
mans were still as much handicapped by occupation burdens as in
1950. As was indicated above, this was not actually the case, and
thus the conclusion is reenforced that East German performance was
poorer than West German. Because of a number of factors, such as
rigidity in planning, lack of incentives, and absence of integration
in a world market, the East's increases in production, compared with
those of the West, required much greater effort and sacrifice in terms
of hours worked and consum

2019-07-26 02:25:15 UTC  

give me the original jstor link