i never said that east germany didn't start out with an advantage in total factor productivity

tfp is not a good proxy for gdp per capita

The journal mentioned it is . Ican show you a host of other sources discussing TFP as being primary determinant

show me otherwise

fvcking syria and mexico have some of the highest tfp measures in the world

source ?

Y'all arguing like it's *unusual* for a nation with a healthy industrial base to degrade over time under socialism. That's like half the history of socialism. The other half is places that didn't have an industrial base.....

Its june trying to make that argument

that somehow starting from same place

having 50 years to make progress

and ending up 30 percent of the gdp

is somehow normal

http://economics.emory.edu/home/documents/workingpapers/islam_99_12_paper.pdf

"starting from same place"

again you haven't demonstrated this

Ending up at 30% after 50 years sounds about right. Look at Venezuela's decline in a much shorter period. Fairly normal socialist productivity....

1988

moron

read your own damn graphs

what about 1988

do you think syria, mexico, and brazil were some of the richest countries in the world in 1988?

well first you are using unbelievably outdated stats

why does the date matter

from over 30 years ago

the point is just to show that tfp is not a good proxy for gdp per capita

Total Factor Productivity (TFP) is often considered the primary contributor to GDP Growth Rate.

While other contributing factors include labor inputs, human capital, and physical capital. Total factor productivity measures residual growth in total output of a firm, industry or national economy that cannot be explained by the accumulation of traditional inputs such as labor and capital. Since this cannot be measured directly the process of calculating derives TFP as the residual which accounts for effects on total output not caused by inputs.

It has been shown that there is a historical correlation between TFP and energy conversion efficiency

So it's a predictor of prospective growth speed, not of current development

?

yeah that's what i was about to say

i mean it does predict current development to an extent, but as we can see the amount of development can vary wildly between countries with similar tfp levels

read the first article

it points out that germanies primary determinant is TFP levels

in growth

no

the first journal

not the previous quote

yeah in the journal it's speaking of growth

in the immediate postwar years

https://www-jstor-org.libproxy.uwinnipeg.ca/stable/pdf/40969598.pdf?refreqid=excelsior%3A8a00d9b7621589e6a89f0af456945b12

this link doesn't work for me