which is exactly why I say that we had three murderous ideologies in 100 years.

(gonna repost my response to this video from yesterday, sec)

and which is why I am not sure if we can even live in a democracy, because Germans go off the deep end eventually.

say ur thing ET, I wanna post my wall o text

Sargon rationalizes the German identity crisis by saying they can only be proud of themselves by not being proud. Being proud of not being proud. Because their past haunts them, and it only haunts them because they identify themselves with their forefathers.

also: ofc, Brits can be NaZis. but those are extremely rare for the reasons Sargon stated.

On the topic of Soygon's latest video: "The Validity of Nazi Comparisons - feat. Three Arrows"

First a minor point:
I largely agree, perhaps with the exception that, from a strictly propaganda perspective, Soygon seems to make too big of a deal of English, or indeed Anglo, uniqueness. I understand that more nuance is not strictly necessary to put the point across, but it sounds really bad when he claims that Anglos are just immune to Nazism. Again: I understand that he is not necessarily saying that they are in fact immune to to any and all wrongdoing, but the way he frames the issue does sound like he might, which just opens him to accusations of blinding pride and/or chauvinism. It's just unfortunate to make a good argument, and present it in a way that is open for crude attack.
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And now for a more "important" point:
When Soygon discusses the "We are Deutch" video, he omits, perhaps to save time, a point that I remember perturbing me the most when I saw the video years ago. Namely that the new ideal German is depicted as gleefully aggressive towards not only the passé, old German "bigot", but also explicitly towards foreigners who disagree with the new German "ordering" of the world. The people who end up being charged by the angry mob of... Liberated (?), degenerate new Germans, hold up placards with the faces of Dutch and Hungarian politicians... The new, Ubermensch is just as validated in his righteous, joyful crusade against other polities and their peoples, as the SS were. Just as long as they do not comply with the German prime directive of the moment. The Germans haven't learned almost anything from what their polity did in the early XXth century. All they learned is that the previous thing they were insanely zealous about was bad. They haven't learned that being insanely zealous about things leads to an inherent sense of moral superiority born of excellence in the chosen temporary madness; and thus to the justification of subjugation of others as, we the Germans have clearly mastered the current zealotry far better then anyone else, which must make us not only inclined to lead the lesser people(s), but bestows on us the moral duty to lead them. And if they disagree, well, we know best anyway, so why would that matter? It's awfully convenient a way to structure your social moral framework, if you're an expansionist empire who's main tactic of expansion is to be direct military force directed at a comparable opponent.
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N.B. It's similarly convenient to the Anglo pretense of not having any shared responsibility for the actions of one's polity. If an Englishman buys inexpensive produce from a merchant in York, because the Crown supports and defends British trading companies abroad, it is no reason for the simple Englishman to feel bad because of the fact said trading companies' entire purpose of existence is to structure the supply chain so as it is in Britain that prices are low, and abroad that the wages are low. Out of sight, out of mind it is for the English individualist... Seems convenient for a merchant Empire...

voila

Dude, you're killing the conversation lul

Enjoy not reading it!

@ETBrooD the biggest problem in that is really, that it isn't inherently wrong to identify with your forefathers.

thx I won't, try compressing the file next time :<

I agree @Dunestyler

you wouldn't read it if I did that anyway

I love reading :<

nerd

thing is, the whole premise of being proud for achivements of others is flawed

Ok fine I'll read your wall, but you lose 100 social credit points for that

I am russian, should I be proud for Peter the Great? He has nothing to do with me

also: "Deutsch" and "Deutschland" dunno, why Sargon would be incapable of correctly saying the sch

Right? 8 years in Germany and he can't pronounce shit

It's not about pride, it's about self esteem that comes from thinking your national identity is one of value. "Price" is not the right word here tbh

Sure it's about pride, but Germans aren't allowed to feel pride because NAZIS

Thus they have to get their sense of pride from rejecting their pride

Cucking

I think Germans are VERY proud

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM entirely my point. I just condensed it. (on the long comment)

Haughtly even

It's quite inevitable

my national identity is of no value, only my actions matter

considering they are obsessive maniacs

which leads them to be the best at what the ydo

you act based on some models

provided to you by culture

@Cesare Anasazi it isn't really being proud of the achievements of others, though.
you must not forget, that you are a product of said achievements. you are NOT disconnected from them.

if you believe said culture is good

and follow it well

then you can be happy with yourself

do you see?