Prrof: We have cars

And we have trees

That's a false equivalency

No it isn't because in this case you don't even have a tree

YOu have cars that run and you can't explain how they just HAPPEN to function with all their parts in the right order.

You're basically arguing the opposite of "if humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" both arguments are stupid, evolution necessitates that there isn't a uniform reproduction of all organisms and traits

some will go extinct

choke to death while drinking, and then argue with me that all the parts of an organism just *happen* to function together

Well, to use your analogy, we have cars that run, they were built by humans but humans went extinct and you're refusing to try and dig them up <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Here's a thought: Maybe all the giraffes with cardiovascular system that couldn't keep up died before they could manufacture more faulty giraffes. I know, shocking.

Okay, but if the original giraffe was a mutation off a successful okapi or whatever, how did it come out perfect the first try and survive?

no organism is perfect

It has to be or it has the downs.

it just survived

basically, if it was flawed in some way, it wasn't flawed to a degree that it couldn't reproduce

you can be pretty flawed, and still reproduce

It randomly survived. The changes generation to generation aren't severe.

you know how many people with glandular, mental, and metabolic issues still breed?

Well you just reminded me that by having c-section, we're weakening humanity as a species <:smugon:512048583806025739>

Those people weren't stillborn missing half a heart.

^

WHich is what a half-giraffe would be.

The transitional okapi wouldn't need a giraffe sized heart, it would just need one effective enough to support whatever transitional elongation of its neck had occurred that generation

we're not talking a doubling of size in a single generation, but probably changes as little as a percent or less over a single generation

And then you'd need another random mutation that *just happens* to perfectly compliment the radical new design.

it doesn't half to be a half giraffe

Half-giraffe doesn'T mean half a giraffe duct taped to a half of okapi tho. The evolutionary midpoint could have half a meter long neck and slightly increased heart, just like the long boi five hundred years ago had 30 cm neck and the longer boi 500 years later would have meter and a half long neck.

You gotta get a modern giraffe somehow, they don't just come out of a horse's ass.

considering this can occur over tens or hundreds of thousands, even millions of years

Also that.

it could just be 0.00067% more giraffe than its parents

I used smol numbers, not to scale

Not to mention Giraffes, particularly Bull Giraffes, have other survival advantages. Such as being extremely dangerous to Lions.

Inb4 pugs aren't descended from wolves because wolves have way bigger hearts <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>

No, it's like expecting a Dire Wolf out of a Great Dane.

Or a great dane out of a normal wolf? <:smugon:512048583806025739>

What about a Great Dane out of a Dire Wolf?

Aurochs, the organism from which modern european stock cows are descended, was fucking *bigger than Buffalo*

Also technically we made a direwolf out of a wolf

Czechoslovakian wolfdog, looks almost like a wolf, is bigger by about half

I think your problem with evolution is that you fail to see it as a process.