Are you deliberately arguing in bad faith?

are you?

Or doing it by mistake?

Transgenderism is not Social justice.

They're two different things.

Your giving me evidence of something else being bad

Which I will agree with you, is bad.

. . .

But that is not transgenderism.

That's Social justice.

what is trangenderism then?

Two separate issues.

thats not an answer

I was a continuation on my previous statement

Let me give you an answer

Transgenderism generally is about those people whom have issues with their gender identity / generally those with gender dysphoria.

It includes, ways of dealing with that gender dysphoria.

Not about how to enforce it on others, like Social justice is.

See the difference now? @D3bug_logic

So if the government outlaws transgenderism thats okay

I think the issue, is the current way of "dealing" with it, is appeasement, which *requires* outside reinforcement

I would disagree with it

But there's not much I can do

which is where @D3bug_logic is getting the references to the tribunal

It would also, never happen.

@Arrias That appeasement comes through Social Justice, not through transgenderism itself

?

it's a requirement of the current "treatment"

But it isn't.

okay then lets just go with conversation therapy

The treatment is generally, therapy, hormone treatment or the operation

if it is all socially constructed lets not beat around the bush

The last two are generally linked

it's absolutely inherent. The current treatment is not to help the person to acknowledge the body they are in, but to try and reinforce the ideal body. Doing so requires outside reinforcement.

And part of the same treatment plan

Refering to someone who is MtF as He is not reinforcing the ideal body

and causes further strife between the real and the ideal

@Arrias The treatment does not go to that scope, nor would it.

The treatment is provided by medical professionals

Weez persons that are gender questioning on average grow out of that and become gay. are you saying that being gay is wrong?

that's what it currently IS