Message from @Weez

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I've never even played any of the Danganronpa games
I don't care for DDLC much, i just like the characters (Monika is my favourite)

generally i don't care for anime stuff but i do like the aesthetic

2019-07-29 18:38:52 UTC  

The left: Holodomor, Great Leap Forward, etc
The right: Holocaust, hundreds of lone-wolf shooters

2019-07-29 18:39:10 UTC  

yeah, one of these extremes doesn't seem to have killed NEARLY as many people the other @BabaBooey

2019-07-29 18:39:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762150810615808/605469411704569900/11771406-6877247-image-a-48_1554221109781.png

2019-07-29 18:57:41 UTC  

The issue is more the term

2019-07-29 18:58:11 UTC  

The group defining "left wing violence" vs "right wing violence" labels almost everything right wing.

2019-07-29 18:58:24 UTC  

As an example, Islamic Terror is considered "right wing"

2019-07-29 18:58:52 UTC  

That's because it is.

2019-07-29 18:58:53 UTC  

Idiot.

2019-07-29 18:59:05 UTC  

Yes but no

2019-07-29 18:59:08 UTC  

They're culturally right

2019-07-29 18:59:15 UTC  

It's *a* "right wing"

2019-07-29 18:59:22 UTC  

It *is* right wing.

2019-07-29 18:59:23 UTC  

but it's not *the* right wing in terms of politics

2019-07-29 18:59:29 UTC  

in the USA

2019-07-29 18:59:32 UTC  

But it is...

2019-07-29 18:59:39 UTC  

They're culturally HARD right.

2019-07-29 18:59:55 UTC  

Just as Antfia is culturally hard left.

2019-07-29 19:00:09 UTC  

And the KKK are culturally right..

2019-07-29 19:00:17 UTC  

Yes they are, but the label is being used to inflate the death count in order to smear ALL right ideologies

2019-07-29 19:01:25 UTC  

It's not 'inflating' anything?

2019-07-29 19:01:27 UTC  

It's the truth

2019-07-29 19:01:41 UTC  

Just how you can say "The left killed millions under Mao"

2019-07-29 19:02:00 UTC  

I went through all the ADL's political violence in the US list.
One of the white supremacy ones was a KKK member's wife, shooting and killing her KKK member husband.
Another of the white supremacy one was 3 white supremacist males living together, one converts to Islam and kills the other 2.

2019-07-29 19:02:35 UTC  

Right so you tell that fiercely-NAP-adherent ANCAP that his right-wing ideology killed people when some islamofascist aloha snackbars a shopping center.

2019-07-29 19:04:09 UTC  

Yes the are "right wing" in the definitional sense, but that's not what the term is being used for

2019-07-29 19:04:26 UTC  

As the old saying goes, there are three kinds of falsehoods.
Lies
Damn Lies

2019-07-29 19:04:29 UTC  

And Statistics

2019-07-29 19:04:40 UTC  

And the statistics hold true..

2019-07-29 19:04:55 UTC  

The statistics only hold true because they're defined to do as such

2019-07-29 19:05:37 UTC  

Do you have the statistics against statistics?

2019-07-29 19:05:42 UTC  

As soon as you introduce almost any other relevant category to the false dichotomy, the group that's being smeared by those statistics gets significantly less smeared.

2019-07-29 19:06:23 UTC  

These statistics shouldn't even be used in debate.. Unless you're talking stupidly vague

2019-07-29 19:06:44 UTC  

This is the issue of statistics, people apply composition/division fallacies to them all the damn time

2019-07-29 19:06:52 UTC  

Which breaks their meaning

2019-07-29 19:07:01 UTC  

for they only hold the meaning they literally state

2019-07-29 19:07:41 UTC  

Which is yeah why those statistics are useless in debate.

2019-07-29 19:07:58 UTC  

I fail to understand why this is an issue

2019-07-29 19:08:07 UTC  

Culturally right are lumped together