Oh so it's not distinct, it's something vague then

How convenient for your argument

Yes, I'm generalizing, but it is so, cause I need to in order to adress Mr. Robinson's concerns. Is such an answer enough to you?

You're not even generalizing, you're not naming anything at all

Generalizing would be "all the Chinese"

Maybe english is his second language

Well, if you want distinctions shall I make a parallel between two real-world cultures? Will it be enough to you guys?

I can already tell what his favorite ideology is

There's only one ideology that people have who talk like this

Yes it is, @Wizard_of_The_West , even not the second, but the third, if you get what I mean.

*wink wink*

I have studied over a dozen languages over the years, so I do not pretend to be a native speaker.

lol grandiosity at its best

Does it inferiorates me in your perception?

You should give a coherent statement with something to refer to in history or current events.

Your talking like a computer

@ETBrooD And what ideology shall it that be?

You talk like a narcissist. You talk like everything's a big secret, you don't want to reveal nothing. Just pretend there's something.

Because in actuality you know nothing

I'm not @Wizard_of_The_West . I'm just trying to refer to a serious concern posted by Mr. Rosenberg.

I do know SOMEthings, not everything but it enough.

You dance around the core of your argument, you have nothing

It is what i know I'm trying to reveal in concession with Mr. Rosenberg's work @ETBrooD .

And what is my argument ,then?

That's my point, you have no argument, it lacks a core

Cause I have not made it yet, if you follow the discussion.

Yes, that's my point

Like just say it

We want to know what you have to say but you're not arriving at the destination

I want to say there are 2 distinc states human cultures can fall into-progressive or conservative.

Those two are mutually exclusive.

Tell us something new

Since they are mutually exclusive any and every society at any point of its history must choose to be either progressive, or conservative.

The new point @ETBrooD is that if you choose to be progressive you MUST choose to prefer change over certainty, but if you choose to be conservative you MUST prefer survivability over change.

yawn

I asked you to tell us something new, but you're not going to apparently.

The two are mutually exclusive and what people can't get, never get is precisely that CHOICE!

You can't both be progressive and give equal freedom in decision making for all and be conservative and advocate saving your renowned political structure and habits. Can you get it?

You either give liberty to a bunch of fools hoping for the better, but preparing for the worst, or, you deny access to newcomers to your political institutions and decision making processes. You MUST CHOOSE either option, can't have both.

So as a real world example, modern Western countries just can not BOTH give everyone free access to their social institutions and save the aforementioned institutions.

Then tell me why America is probably the most divided western country between progressivism and conservatism right now