Indeed, system11

"Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all those other forms of government that have been tried." —Winston Churchill

Democracy tended to have better results not because of the system, but because the kind of populations which generally adopted it tended to be comparatively advantaged. Which was one of the reasons it was appealing. But then, the results of actually utilizing it, in the long term, have come to deteriorate the qualities of the population which made it so appealing.

Woo.

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"X is bad" is a comparative statement that says "X is not as good as field Y's average performance"

Okay, need I step you through the process?

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Pure democracy is shit it just means the majority can treat the minority like slaves. A constitutional republic is better.

See I can argue against democracy *and* justify why *and* suggest an alternative. Pretty easy TBH fam.

Indeed. Well said.

wait a minute - is that how democracy works? the people who won the vote are now slave owners? fucking awesome - my garden needs tidying up

kek

in a political democracy, being the loser, the minority vote, means your ideas failed in the marketplace

High Trust, High IQ populations, particularly in the west, tend to gravitate towards democratic institutions. But the success of those institutions depends on the perpetuation of meritocratic, fitness selection mechanisms, economic and political integrity, and of the demos not deteriorating in terms of initiative, awareness, competence, and value. But often, as democracy progresses, opportunistic actors find it more appealing to leverage the votes of low investment, low income demos, to achieve power. And they will often *bribe* these low income, low investment constituents through the application of wealth and resource distribution schemes. In so doing, exacerbating class conflict, and subsidizing the growth of the least capable sub-populations.

you concerns are by definition, less important than those of everyone else, live with it

This is why we have a nation of laws, and not of men.

A constitutional republic is the best thing we have to alleviate the potential of such things to corrupt the results of elections and votes.

But hey, show me something better.

Like, for example, the Terran Federation from Starship Troopers.

yeah but thats just a manifestation of democracy, or maybe thats the other way around

@Goodwood of Dank™
>An Ethnonationalist IQ-Based Democratic People's Republic

Kek.

Everyone who completes a term of service can get the vote. And everyone has the right to try for it, no matter their disability.

we could just erase it all nd install trump as eternal god emperor for all of america & europe

I know with me being in favor of market capitalism, this might come as a shocker, but markets don't always produce the most desirable outcome. It's less accurate to argue that a market always produces a good outcome then it is to argue that outcomes within a market are *earned* for better or worse. The reality is that markets are subject to human stupidity, as is basically everything else. They just tend to compartmentalize failures better when they rely on voluntary transaction.

at this point, i would vote for it

Kek. Me too.

You know what, you ask me if I think there is a better system? I'll concede, Starship Troopers sounds bretty gud.

we're going to need to divert science funding to extending his life indefinitely

system11, you should read my second novel...

...he's a fairly major minor character.

But then, that's basically a system with some elements of democracy, providing voting as a privilege to be earned through meritorious behavior, rather than a default right.

Which *is* better than universal suffrage, I strongly suspect.

Because it attaches that representation more strongly to a personal investment, and personal risk.

Service Guarantees Citizenship!

its hrd to measure meritous behaviour

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Voting isn't a right. The ability to earn the vote is.

Hard, yes, many standards can be better than virtually none at all. Or "oh, you were born here, that means you understand how things should be run!"

In Starship Troopers.

socioeconomic mobility is far more important a factor in functional civilization than socioeconomic *equality*