Message from @Jym

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2019-09-03 02:37:09 UTC  

Races are generally recognized using multifactoral analysis. The Human species has sufficient total population FST to fit within the category of other species which have subspecies.

2019-09-03 02:37:15 UTC  

It's really not that hard to grasp.

2019-09-03 02:37:54 UTC  

The subcategories of humans don't need to be absolutely constrained into discrete categories to justify this. If they were, they might as well be entirely different species. They are not, obviously.

2019-09-03 02:38:36 UTC  

The article I linked explains all this in detail.

2019-09-03 02:38:59 UTC  

And even if that’s a thing, why does this exactly matter? (excluding average differences)

2019-09-03 02:39:26 UTC  

Because Jym is arguing there's no biologically valid reason to use racial categories.

2019-09-03 02:40:10 UTC  

That there isn't a sufficient level of distinction, and that humans don't conform to discrete groups strictly enough to justify it.

2019-09-03 02:41:26 UTC  

I mean even if that is a thing we are still really close biologically considering we can all procreate (properly anyway), but honestly I don’t really care provided we treat people equally regardless

2019-09-03 02:43:55 UTC  

Yes, we are still extremely close. Africans, Jews, Arabs, Indians, Chinese, as frustrating as some of our differences can be, are my brothers.

2019-09-03 02:45:12 UTC  

While I understand that, on aggregate, my culture and values are generally much more likely to conform to that of other white europeans, I can share common cause, interests, and designs with people who are not white. And there are even whites with which I share little ideologically in common.

2019-09-03 02:46:24 UTC  

Yep

2019-09-03 02:47:05 UTC  

Honestly wasn’t gonna go anywhere from there, so yeah

2019-09-03 02:48:08 UTC  

Understanding differences is a prerequisite to finding constructive ways of resolving them peacefully.

2019-09-03 02:48:19 UTC  

Oh Christ I don't want to have anything to do with *Europeans* that's where socialism comes from.....

2019-09-03 02:49:02 UTC  

LOL. Oh, I actually agree. The subset of Europeans that remained in Europe on average seem to be way more enthusiastic about socialism than the ones who came to the US, on average.

2019-09-03 02:51:38 UTC  

No. Europeans *invented* socialism. It comes from their demented mindset. Where kings dictate economies to unarmed peasants.

2019-09-03 02:52:39 UTC  

Now quick name the jew.....

2019-09-03 02:52:43 UTC  

Yawns...

2019-09-03 02:54:08 UTC  

There's no single point of origin for centrally planned economies. Socialism in particular, in a modern incarnation is both very european, and very jewish. Though one could argue such distributions are de facto often a feature of many *failed* states and economies, though with generally less veiled an intent.

2019-09-03 02:57:41 UTC  

I think to an extent, free markets grew as a product of new technologies and opportunities for trade outpacing the *capacity* for governments to actually control it all, and that as governments achieved newer methods of organization, policing, and monitoring, it became more appealing to the elites to push once again for tighter central planning.

2019-09-03 02:58:10 UTC  

Yet socialism as a formal idea comes from the degenerates in Yurip.

2019-09-03 02:58:11 UTC  

This is also a useful vehicle within democracies, particularly with widely expanded franchise.

2019-09-03 02:58:52 UTC  

Which in particular are you crediting?

2019-09-03 02:59:18 UTC  

As far as I'm aware, both Socialism, as a formal concept, and free markets as a formal concept, are european in origin.

2019-09-03 02:59:50 UTC  

Probably because they had the circumstances where there was really the opportunity to actually widely *debate* these systems and philosophies.

2019-09-03 03:00:08 UTC  

Instead of it just being imposed without necessarily even being defined.

2019-09-03 03:01:39 UTC  

That peasant cultures make peasants who want reasons to thing their masters can rule them justly. And Masters who like the idea that they can and should rule and that it will result in justice.

2019-09-03 03:04:06 UTC  

It's who they are. Peasants, slaves, Europeans.

2019-09-03 03:04:41 UTC  

I'm not sure exactly which non-European society is a strict exception to this. Aside from those which simply couldn't afford to police peasant populations to any significant degree.

2019-09-03 03:04:57 UTC  

I think maybe the English might decide to be men.

2019-09-03 03:05:50 UTC  

Seems to be more of a thing that pretty much every sufficiently sophisticated society does, and from which is rarely departed from more than superficially.

2019-09-03 03:06:09 UTC  

And which the Europeans just had the luxury of being able to define in multiple ways.

2019-09-03 03:12:28 UTC  

Honestly I'm seeing it everywhere now. The anti-white male culture is just everywhere. And in some ways it's like it's trying to erase white men from our very own countries.
Like I just saw a mental health awareness advert.
Black man and white woman.
Why that choice exactly?
Especially anyway when you consider white men are at greater risk of suicide in today's age and they're not being appeal to.
I don't care if muh alt right opinion sounds like reverse sjw opinions. Ya'll sound the same as them by not having a problem with it, checkmate horsetrads.

2019-09-03 03:12:50 UTC  

There's also the tendency for more regulation to occur in societies with lower trust. Even in circumstances where that low trust is directed at the state itself.

2019-09-03 03:13:40 UTC  

Black eraser never existed because black people never existed outside of shitty save the African adverts

2019-09-03 03:14:14 UTC  

Which is why, despite the level of socialism, at least up until recently, some Scandinavian countries actually had fewer market regulations than the US, iirc.

2019-09-03 03:14:33 UTC  

Europeans are peasants, and they do not knwo they are peasants so they think their opiniions matter. Whu=ich they do not.

2019-09-03 03:15:34 UTC  

They lack the initiative to make them matter, really.

2019-09-03 03:15:44 UTC  

Most people do.

2019-09-03 03:18:13 UTC  

And it would be at least somewhat accurate to observe that many european populations have been selected, over the course of the past few thousand years, to be suited to essentially being agrarian serfs. And many are still ill suited for much else.

2019-09-03 03:19:30 UTC  

These qualities and this culture did serve as a useful stepping stone towards more market driven societies, though. The culture of thrift, and industry.