Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM
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Outside of the confines of a social hierarchy, a human being knows no master; They speak as they see fit, defend themselves as they see fit, and conduct themselves as they see fit. From that state, 'Natural Rights' spring forth. You needs must be free to protect yourself and speak your mind, else you are little more than a serf.
Where the others come from is an agreed upon selection of codified Legal Rights, as determined by the precise nature of the social contract that people form together.
From that state, 'Natural Rights' spring forth.
what does that mean?
what does 'spring up' form that state?
also: what the fuck is outside of social hierarchy?
like actually?
When stripped of the presence of other human beings, there is no external force to forcibly silence you or strip from your means of self-defense short of violent death at the hands of a local predator. There is no beam of magic light that smites you when you say a naughty word; No fines for killing that bobcat with a boulder.
perhaps conceptually
ok, but that is just gay abstraction
but thats a different story all together
with little to no incidence on everyday life
Everyday life now is very much removed from man's original state, you know.
and I don see how it makes your rights inherent
man's original state is nothing like the ppl who wrote that shit thought, you know?
they were Rousseauian noble savage kinds
yet so similar
that was 'in' at the time
and we pretty much know that that is bullshit
men never lived alone
ever
we're pack animals
society is not second to human nature, they are one and the same
We are by our very natures lonely, social creatures, yes. Socializing and society are not one in the same I would argue, however. I've never seen a gorilla tax another gorilla.
the nature has changed
we still go out into the wilderness, and chase after food
I mean gorillas are not humans, so sure
I'm not saying they are
its just the wilderness is an office cube, and you get something you trade in for snackies
I'm saying this 'what human is in abstraction ofrom society' mode of thinking is inherently flawed
and the ladies like it when you have more snackies than the chimp next door
because ther eis no such thin as a human outside of society
at least not outside of weird fringe cases
that probably end in mental illness
Plenty of people keep trying to escape society, at least. Not that I can fault them for it.
society at large is like a troupe
like with lions, the male ones sometimes think the society is shit
and make their own
stalk the edges of other socieities, and try to sneak in some humpa humpa
but since societies are so big now
its not wonder globalism is being resisted how it is
imagine not being able to go anywhere different