Message from @Jokerfaic

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2019-09-11 01:23:10 UTC  

none of this should have been our fucking problem

2019-09-11 01:23:26 UTC  

It becomes our problem if we don't take care of it

2019-09-11 01:23:32 UTC  

bull

2019-09-11 01:23:32 UTC  

EArly on

2019-09-11 01:23:33 UTC  

fucking

2019-09-11 01:23:35 UTC  

shit

2019-09-11 01:23:41 UTC  

Not to mention it's a humintarian problem

2019-09-11 01:24:01 UTC  

So other than the fact we have a moral obligation to help the world, there's also the fact it's not like they would be willing to leave well enough alone

2019-09-11 01:24:16 UTC  

I mean for example, look at the millions of refugees flooding Europe right now becuase Syria is falling apart

2019-09-11 01:24:22 UTC  

The millions of refugees from iraq go some where

2019-09-11 01:24:33 UTC  

This sort of problem doesn't just go away unfortunately

2019-09-11 01:24:35 UTC  

we have no such fucking obligation, we are our own fucking nation state, we have our own problems and responsibilities

2019-09-11 01:24:38 UTC  

With that much suffering everyone gets involved

2019-09-11 01:24:53 UTC  

We do have a moral obligation as they are fellow human beings

2019-09-11 01:24:59 UTC  

But beyond that, it will end up effecting us eventually

2019-09-11 01:25:03 UTC  

it's not as if the problems go away

2019-09-11 01:25:12 UTC  

>everyone
literally the US is the only nation currently retarded enough to be sticking our dick in the very appropraitely named "graveyard of empires"

2019-09-11 01:25:40 UTC  

The UK were in for a bit then smartened the fuck up

2019-09-11 01:26:07 UTC  

europe has taken a completely different path, and the continent is suffering for it

2019-09-11 01:27:04 UTC  

The Russians wouldn't even have the opportunity to effectively "help" even if they wnated to, what with all of europe and the US snapping our teeth at their border

2019-09-11 01:27:31 UTC  

CHina's so far minding its own business, as far as this context is concerned

2019-09-11 01:27:52 UTC  

Japan and Korea are in little position to act on it either

2019-09-11 01:28:06 UTC  

Something like over 30 countries were involved in the iraq war of course

2019-09-11 01:28:10 UTC  

it wasn't a uniquely american thing

2019-09-11 01:28:19 UTC  

emphasis on "were"

2019-09-11 01:28:25 UTC  

There was a pretty big global threat from the idea a gigantic war in the middle east would effect the rest of the world

2019-09-11 01:28:37 UTC  

It eventually brings in other players and it expands from there

2019-09-11 01:29:02 UTC  

If Russia and the U.S. are facing off on opposite ends of a Syrian-Iranian-Iraq war vs. like the U.S. and Israel and Suadi Arabia, that's kind of a big deal

2019-09-11 01:29:17 UTC  

Iran has a military force of like 13 million people when including the basij, which dwarfs entire countries in population

2019-09-11 01:29:22 UTC  

Even without WMD's it would be a bloodbath

2019-09-11 01:29:34 UTC  

what if Iran decides to march to France and just attack them or what have you

2019-09-11 01:29:41 UTC  

You can literally walk from the middle east to Europe, many have

2019-09-11 01:29:45 UTC  

with a military budget, after sanctions, of a fucking corner diner's salary

2019-09-11 01:30:29 UTC  

The distance between France and Iraq is a shorter distance between LA and New York

2019-09-11 01:30:49 UTC  

that you even pretend Iran is a threat to anyone but itself at this current point is either extremely naive or shows malicious agenda

2019-09-11 01:30:54 UTC  

The middle east is right across the border on Europe

2019-09-11 01:31:33 UTC  

iran is pretty clearly a threat to a lot of people, arming and funding hezbollah for example, who daily luanches missiles at israel

2019-09-11 01:31:52 UTC  

Iran has also tried to assassinate many western leaders, including in denmark, and has been attacking various ships

2019-09-11 01:31:54 UTC  

Saudis fund ISIS and we actively support them, try again

2019-09-11 01:32:03 UTC  

No they don't

2019-09-11 01:32:08 UTC  

There isn't real evidence of this