https://dahfutur.blogspot.com/2017/04/iraq-before-and-after.html

When we fight enemies for control

I wrote up a thing on it

it's strictly their fault

Iraq is considerably better off now, with more water, more food etc.

you are chauvinistic to the extreme

go die

Now you are just making a strawman, never did I say we were perfect, I just said we made it better

There is an obvious difference

you said 'socialists' were to blame

you are a demagogue

It is generally better for the world and Iraq that the socialists aren't in power anymore

Yes, the socialsits are the primary cause of hte problems in the middle east

not for the ppl who died in the invasion

you halfwit

most of the dicatorships were etheir literally socialist or connected to them

The U.S. killed a few thousand people in the invasion

so what?

Saddam killed half a million people, before we invaded

even according to wikileaks, they claim we killed 14,075 civilians, not 500,000

The total deaths in the war began before we even indaded

>a few thousand
again, federal government disagrees with you. geenrally cited number is at least a hundred thousand

Since the iraq war did not start the moment we invaded

The 100,000 figure is total dead

Not killed by us

Does anyone remember Radio Zeesen?

you are a feckless moron

And Saddam Hussein's military killed them along with bandits in the ensuing chaos

If you find the 100,000 figure, it will say we supposedly killed 14,075 civilians

But this is a now debunked piece of information

Even wikileaks revised the figures to about 2,600

this is literally just 'we are pure and do no evil, it's all the fault of our enemies'

I blame the Puritan heritage of your Mutt country tbh

worse its "all our actions, no matter how unseemly, can't be avoided, and are therefore justified"

I mean I'm not saying that war is always the worse option

I'm saying fuck the 'we did no wrong' justification

No it's not, I never said we were perfect, I'm acknowleding a few thousand civilian deaths by us. I'm saying we improved the country

I'm not saying we did not wrong, I'm sure if you really tried you can find bad things, but that's irrelevant ot the fact overall we improved the country and made it better

The argument that we have to be perfect is silly

I've never really made that argument at all

thats great, can we get around to improving ***our*** country any time soon?