Message from @Weez

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2019-09-11 22:48:31 UTC  

Fiat?

2019-09-11 22:48:39 UTC  

it's value is in that which we give it

2019-09-11 22:48:42 UTC  

money is now cars :)

2019-09-11 22:49:00 UTC  

Oooo

2019-09-11 22:49:35 UTC  

it's value is that which we say it has

2019-09-11 22:49:36 UTC  

It has no physical backing

2019-09-11 22:49:38 UTC  

So basically the only thing that would be a valuable currency is if I traded goods I'd made/collected for something that I needed?

2019-09-11 22:49:55 UTC  

if I say it's a currency, it's a currency

2019-09-11 22:50:07 UTC  

currency != money != valuable

2019-09-11 22:50:13 UTC  

all of these things are indy from each other

2019-09-11 22:50:14 UTC  

It's literally just magical numbers, magic money.

2019-09-11 22:50:16 UTC  

Which is why bottle caps are used in fallout

2019-09-11 22:50:19 UTC  

No value, no meaning, no backing.

2019-09-11 22:50:23 UTC  

mmhmm

2019-09-11 22:50:27 UTC  

Nah that's another reason @James Rimor

2019-09-11 22:50:38 UTC  

well, they do have some backing, because they do hold gold and silver etc

2019-09-11 22:50:42 UTC  

but it's not directly backed

2019-09-11 22:50:53 UTC  

so, it's value isn't tied to the thing

2019-09-11 22:50:53 UTC  

That's just something you can trade with them

2019-09-11 22:50:56 UTC  

Yeah

2019-09-11 22:51:02 UTC  

@Weez well ye that nuclear apocalypse probably had something to do with it as well πŸ˜‚

2019-09-11 22:51:22 UTC  

In Fallout, bottlecaps were used because they couldn't be duplicated. Though they were backed by water.

2019-09-11 22:51:23 UTC  

The idea is you have something which has a limited supply, so you can have an idea of the amount of it out there

2019-09-11 22:51:28 UTC  

1 bottle cap = X Water

2019-09-11 22:51:40 UTC  

Ahhh

2019-09-11 22:51:40 UTC  

and can use it to trade with others and everyone knows how much it's worth in x thing

2019-09-11 22:52:06 UTC  

the reason we use(d) gold in the past is because it's limited on this planet and the extraction of new gold is hard

2019-09-11 22:52:09 UTC  

Less control over it, that way though @notaglobe

2019-09-11 22:52:46 UTC  

Wait so if money isn't based on gf an just magig numbers then why doesn't the government just increase the amount of money it has If it's all worthless and more can easily be made?

2019-09-11 22:52:52 UTC  

A floatless currency allows us to manipulate it a lot more

2019-09-11 22:53:08 UTC  

@James Rimor are you trolling me or seriously asking?

2019-09-11 22:53:14 UTC  

That's called inflation @James Rimor

2019-09-11 22:53:23 UTC  

More money = each single piece is worth less

2019-09-11 22:53:25 UTC  

not that i'm mad if your serious

2019-09-11 22:53:26 UTC  

Ye I know it's artificial inflation

2019-09-11 22:53:43 UTC  

but are you serious before I put effort in here

2019-09-11 22:54:00 UTC  

High inflation can be beneficial in certain times

2019-09-11 22:54:15 UTC  

^ to stop stagnation

2019-09-11 22:54:27 UTC  

Okay I just realised how stupid the thing I asked was when I remembered venezuela πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚