you dont ban guns based on a shootings

I can confirm the stupid young people part. my highschools had nurseries

then their parents failed them

and the school system failed them

and fuck that whole buisness

I don’t want to sound like a dick but to be honest you can’t have this conversation without sounding like one

promoting impulsive retarding cuz its FREE I CAN DO WHAT I WANT

fucking irritating

set your individual standards people

shits not hard

It's good to work to increase the use of contraceptives, but not at the cost of legal abortion. And again, abortion _is_ illegal beyond a certain point in the pregnancy, as it should be.

if its about individual standards then how about leave the federal government out of it?

^

because its a matter of protecting the right to life

government should uphold laws

and rights

that's a great line to justify state authority being exercised on arguably the most personally sovereign part of human biology

I make no statements as to the morality or lack thereof of the action, I just don't think letting the government have that kind of power is a good idea

@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU So in other words....ban abortions?

so you think its fine to physically abuse children because its a personal matter?

government shouldnt be bothered?

its your child under your care afterall

Once the fetus _is_ truly alive, it deserves protection. But the argument does not hold water when used to justify - Boop is strawmanning. We shouldn't bother anymore.

i dont see how it is

define 'truly alive'

self sustaining?

If he can't understand nuance and balance, he will _never_ have a good take on any political issue.

im right here

it has simple biological functions in areas such as the nervous system and brain, and it can feel pain

you dont have to talk at me in third person

yes, and as I said that's the general consensus of where to draw the line

so comatose people arent truly alive?

I was talking to the others. I'm kinda done bothering with you. There is a difference between "pro-choice" and "condoning child abuse"

do they have brain functions?

vegetables dont

So that means they're pretty much dead

Nope and we should stop wasting money on vegetables

if their brains aren't even fucking on

Agency is not defined and its deliberate

@MrDrk666 ikr? fruits and starches ftw

what if they have a chance of recovery?