I don't see how you keep trying to claim this would benefit muslims

Simple, selection bias

I find it tough to not have one against the other and then I want , nothing to do with any of them. I think that Islam is definitely used politically

any religion can manipulate politics. its an ideology like any other, and as such is inherently expansionist

and trying to play one against the other will only ensure whichever one wins will be permenantly entrenched in the system for centuries to come

At the moment, they will have a problem trying to divide it from the state in the Netherlands because they had no religion to protect them against it to begin with.

So, I have a problem with people in Europe not identifying themselves as a once Christian nation.

you realise this is the same logic that led the US government to support jihadists and warlords in africa and the middle east simply to oppose the Soviets

one cancer is not less lethal than the other

secular government is plenty effective at holding back Islam. Look at Saddam's Bathists

@Jokerfaic it's Holland hence the reason why I don't live there. I can see other countries with strong ties to their religious, Christianity , like Spain and France for example. Clinging on for dear life to their traditions. But , boy are the USA one walking contradiction.

They don't have a higher power to govern them like the UK have

You're really not listening to a word I'm saying.

@Jokerfaic but I want a church to govern the UK. So I am listening. I just don't want the church of England to be detached from government.

That's why I am torn.

Then I'm afraid we won't find a resolution to our differences

I just think America has no religion at all and it is a melting pot for trouble.

then I must inquire what country you're actually referring to

America is still and has been a majority christian nation

with a majoirty of outspoken evangelical government officers

many openly calling for christian law over democratic law

No it has no actual denomination interweaved with decision making in senate

The house of lords has 39 bishops involved in the government's process.

I must beg to differ

I don't see any church members in senate

So it's all a load of bollucks.

you'll still find senators arguing for legislation citing their religious beliefs

Hence the reason why they are able to make poop decisions regarding fighting.

fighting what?

I am saying , their religious beliefs don't actually mean the church, is officially involved.

The church or England is appointed in the house of lords.

a distinction without a difference

the result is the same, modern day democracy strongarmed by caveman superstition

I want that to remain. It means there is power and they have power in democratic process. And it means,..... NO IMAMS ALLOWED

So, no ... America is a sitting duck.

well then lets be very clear, you're for christian sharia

you don't believe in secular liberal democracy whatsoever

I am for the culling of Muslim culture.

We need a cap

you might as well call to be a theocracy

Now, if you consider me as more theocratic then who cares . Islam doesn't belong in the UK. It's about to get booted out.