Most of it was made up

FUcking Watergate didn't have that level of success.

And?

There were only five people invovled and one cracked under the pressure.

People back then didn't care about proof as much as we do today

Wow, this went into the weeds quickly

You don't think twelve people who were literally tortured to death for this belief would have confessed to it being false>

All invented

There's no proof these people even existed

There is no proof you exist

So did the Romans just lie about the insurrections?

It was a false flag, dude! The Romans were being run by space lizards!

What I'm saying is that there's a lot of fiction surrounding real events

Jesus is one of those fictional stories

People don't die for a lie.

HAHAHAHA

They put chemicals in the aqueducts to turn the legionairres gay!

Let me screenshot that for later reference
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People don't die for a lie? Millions have died over human history over religion-derived conflict

You have actually read the accounts of Jesus' death, right? Several of the disciples cracked under the pressure and denied they knew him or killed themselves.

And then they all claim he came back from the dead, and not even torture or crucifixion could make them admit otherwise?

Why would they do that?

All made up

WHy?

Why not?

Because people don't hold up to torture that well for something they know is a ruse.

It's the martyr angle

They hold up fine when they know there's no out

You clearly don't understand the human condition if you think people don't die for false beliefs

Are you willing to die for atheism?

Look at the people prepared to die to prevent brexit, for instance

Depends on the circumstances

@Eccles No one is willing to die to prevent Brexit. They are trying to prevent Brexit out of self-interest, because they think they WILL die if Brexit happens.

Thats the opposite of martyrdom, that's cowardice.

Oops you just gave one reason for why people die for false beliefs

Hint: there's more

Okay smartass. What do you think a world populated entirely by atheists would look like?

No clue, except there would be new religions that we don't define as such right now

Too many people can't live without religion, many just invent one if they don't have one

Why is that? Obviously YOU can live without religion. You and your big brain!

Yeah I can