Message from @Gservator
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Historians would disagree
essentially, it's "slavery" after the same fashion as employment is "slavery"
Perhaps define servitude as you mean it here
but the circumstance and conditions of it can be expanded to be pretty bad, depending on what's acceptable for terms of contract
To be certain we are referring to the same exact thing
Voluntarily becoming a slave for someone to fulfil a task for X amount of time to pay something off
@Gservator I'm speaking specifically of ancap philosophy on self-ownership, not broad historical opinions
@Miniature Menace I'm not talking to you
@Gservator "Historians would disagree"
This is not you talking to me then? Okay.
Yeah, I am certain there is a point of promised service where it crosses the line of trade to what amounts to slavery
Way too tired to really consider the nuance of where that is right now, though
In the Aztec empire if you didn't pay off the debt you became a sacrifice
So, historians would disagree with voluntary servitude being excluded from slavery?
Yes
I was mostly remarking upon that the accusation that the libertarian-right is okay with slavery or some shit is apparently not such a baseless accusation as I thought
Even if inaccurate, there is reasonable basis to think that if those are the ones that they have seen
Granted, I consider myself neutral/indifferent to the liberal/conservative axis
Well, first, I get the impression that there would likely already be a factor of duress, for someone to take this deal. And second, that's just an employment contract with your body as collateral.
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Beans were the currency in the Aztec empire
Human beangs
*Real* human beans
Boo
*human **beans***
I think the thing I liked about Aztecs is the fact that sacrifices weren't killed immediately, they spent a month in a chamber to partake in drugs and sex being treated as a celebrity and then got sacrificed
Which ones chiefly sacrificed war prisoners?
What you mean
Like, of the south/central american tribes
All of them depending on era
Mayas, Incans, Aztecs
Idk which one
Okay
Probably what he said
iirc the pyramids wheren't actually built by slaves...
basically just contracted farmers
Aztecs were the only ones to use slaves and lottery winning citizens as sacrifices
Because I remember hearing that this was a thing that happened also, and I was wondering if there were any particular tribes which did, or didn't do it.
The _winning_ ones were the sacrifices?
Overly complex. I work for a guy who, for whatever reason. wants a fuckton of money. I'm not overly interested in money I like playing vidya and reading books. I am pretty good at figuring out how to make things work better. The guy I work for figures making things work better will help him make fucktons of money. So long as we can come to an arrangement where he pays me enough for vidya, mortgage, bills, and books and otherwise does not screw with me doing things I like we can come to a compromise.
"Congratulations! You wont the lottery! ...the AZTEC lottery!"
They saw it as a great honor