again that goes back to the 13 clocks statement

the northern colonies NEEDED Virgina and the Carolinas

they wouldnt have gotten that if they abolished slavery right then and there

Seems to me that they just told everyone that they should fight for them because, among other things, they'd honour their civic right to vote.

and the fact that both Jefferon, AND Adams lemented and debated that decision to NOT abolish slavery, but understood it was a required concession to win the war

the hope was they would abolish after things had stabilized

well then the french revolution happened

then the spanish

and so on

freedom making waves

point was they never got the chance to do it themselves

and they wanted it

see while, I know many people read up and admire Washington and Franklin, because they were the giants

Adams and Jefferson were straight gansta

I like Adams a lot

I really wish I could go back in time and get to know those guys

anyways, unless women pay net taxes and go to war they should neither vote for congress or president. same goes for men

but many women today DO pay net taxes and go to war

many?

run that by me one more time

Jefferson refrained from including the right to private property in the final draft of the declaration of independence because he knew it would have been interpreted as a justification for slavery. He replaced it with the right to the pursuit of happiness.
I see why he did it and it was probably the right move at the time but man, imagine a country where property laws were enshrined in the constitution. It would be pretty epic.

there are a fair amount of women in the armed services and who are landowners and entrepreneurs

@jacovich stabs well to be fair, Jefferson didnt edit the document himself, he had both Franklin and Adams there, and again, they removed the slavery abolishment thing as the concession to keep Virgina and the Carolinas on their side

being a beneficiary of the taxes discredits you as a net taxpayer btw

so if I get a tax return, I'm not a net tax payer?

It was an early draft that had the right to private property crossed out and I think it was Jefferson who was working on that draft.

depends. are you on any kind of social/welfare

Does WIC count?

if you payed more than you put into the system, that makes you a net taxpayer

Because while I can afford Med insurance for me and my wife, I can't afford it for my newborn son, sadly

you can get a tax return that is less than what you put in, thus making you a NTP

im not familiar with WIC

basically food stamps and social benefits for children of families who can't afford to take care of them, at least in principle

Then, I guess it does, since it likely taking taxes in order to fund itself

So even though I pay my taxes, my wife works and pays her taxes, I pay an extra $700 a month for medical insurance, 15 a month for dental for her and myself, the fact that I have to bite the bullet and take social assitance for my new son makes no longer a Net Tax Payer?

however, if you're paying a large sum of taxes maybe you are a NTP

I assume, once your son grows up and no longer needs the assistance, you'll definitely be a NTP

I'm pretty sure despite that, I already am an NTP

I've paid alot of money to a government that I know is corrupt, with money I know doesnt even pay for the roads going directly into the pockets of private globalist bankers

my current worry is that there won't BE a world for my son to grow up in

that he might be the first in a new generation that will basically be living Fallout style