and its kind of sad and pathetic hes standing there with a thing he wired and im asking myself

like is this a cry for help?

like is he gonna off himself if i dont hang out with him tonight

whatever

I'd say just get him out at a bar and have a chat over a few beers or something. But yeah, you also can't take personal responsibility for his mental state.

It's definitely a cry for attention. It's not a great sign for his mental health.

i dont mean to sound cold about it but im staving off the existential dread myself and its a shitty feeling but at the end of the day there has to be an end to the day

It's not cold, it's just realistic about how much you can personally do for someone else. Reach out if and when you can, but if it's an issue with him it will have to be him to solve it. Even with help.

I've made that mistake before. Trying to help someone who was too far gone to really benefit at that point. It's brutal but there's a reason there's a billion dollar mental health industry. Unfortunately, al of the time you realize someone needs help is also after the point you can really help.

yeh

well i called him up and offered to go on a bike ride, i do it all the time when im feeling like shit

maybe it will help him

its late but whatever, i know a cool spot to ride to

shouldnt take long, maybe 45 minutes

this assuages my guilt without having to let him in my house

it helps me that he doesnt want to do it

so in a way im also punishing him for bothering me

by making him do something i want to do instead of something he wants to do

and now if he kills himself i can say

"well i tried"

It's also a thing he can do on his own if he needs to, and exercise helps lift the spirit.

thats my thinking

like if i get into the existential tailspin

i find a good bike ride actually helps a lot

and i think thats where hes at

depression isnt "sadness"

its nothingness

its not that everything is bad

its that nothing is good

no purpose, no meaning, i get that

it becomes nihilism

a bike ride isnt a super nihilistic act

most nihilists never exercise

anyway whatever thanks for helping me think about it a bit

i think this is a decent plan to solve all the problems together

Yeah, it's the manifestation of apathy. Actually feeling apathetic. And it tears everything of meaning down from the inside out. Been there.

i dont want him moping all over my house

Yeah, no worries man. Hope you can sort it out.

i would prefer to go out and anti-mope with him

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Why are you pink?