so again you can't get why

Don;t get me wrong , i'm not saying science should be halted

Re: why without the other stuff.

Nor am I.

Faith need not be limited to the religious.

You see this is my problem

but i think there should be specific and worthy reasons to push the limits in certain areas

Science is of great value.

Faith is belief without proof.

it's the whole making faith based assumptions

it's just waste imho

Science is impossible without faith.

Well it's a controlled amount of faith

Eh, but Science is rife with faith based assumptions.

if there's too much it's not going to go anywhere

if there's not enough you don't get anywhere

Of course. You hypothesize.
Then you test.

Controlled, that's an interesting thought.

You don't go with "I think this is true, therefore it's true"

In the hypothetical stage, you’re operating on faith.

That's the problem I have with faith

The complete disregard of proper evidence based thinking

Faith is not “I believe this is true, so it’s true”
Faith is merely “I believe this is true”

Honest faith isn't even "I think this is true, therefore it is."

And not using the scientific method

I mean, if you need to smash something to discover the how and the why, all for some physical quest of self discovery, well i dunno, maybe im just paranoid

@Scale_e I'm just trying to make a point sorry for not using the proper terms

I'm just using what I can

Nah, all we can do is humbly approach the Alter.

Why is literally "I think it's true, therefore it is" in 90% of the cases

That’s bad science.

I would say 100% because you can't know why and people don't seem to understand that

Realizing that we cannot comprehend all of the answers.

*The popular stereotype of the researcher is that of a skeptic and a pessimist. Nothing could be further from the truth! Scientists must be optimists at heart, in order to block out the incessant chorus of those who say "It cannot be done."*

muten , wouldn't you need faith in the underlying principles to discover any new ones?

I've already been over that

I said it's a controlled amount of faith

oh ok missed that

If you have too much you don't get anywhere

The crux of my faith is the *why*.

if you don't have enough you don't go anywhere