i think all cultures stem from that arrangement but typically, there gender roles always account trade-offs

well and now we see that when you try to erode those traditional roles because we think we're smarter or somehow above those traditions... people are unhappy

Hispanic Culture grants women far more lattitude to be 'open' but at a cost of shaparoning from top to bottom

and society starts turning to shit

that is always true to some extend though

We live in a society

i think the BIGGEST difference is that in the past, reality FORCED you to test your ideas

yea and now our lives are so leisurely, we have the spare time to start questioning these traditions and their value

today, the internet allows you to maintain those ideas despite the cognitive dissonance that results

that is true as well

next thing you know

both the internal as well as external motivators have been greatly removed

we got sodomy parades

that was pretty much immediate the moment we let the class clowns and hippies 'just do what they felt like'

well and the demographic changes that are taking place

sodomy parades were immediate due to class clowns and hippies??

in the same way as giving gays a protected status displaces the mechanisms which traditionally enforce/encourage gender roles and thus prioritize values

the propaganda and etc

intelligent people espeacially think that the rules shouldn't apply to them cause they are diffrent. they fail to realize that if an exception is made for THEM, the rules will be rendered powerless

the only way the rules have the desired effect on the fringes of society is that if EVERYONE is expected to follow them and the consequences for not following them are standardized

certain rules are just for the subhumans though ... or because of them

no, rules are only RULES unless there are little to no exceptions

otherwise, you just have 'suggestions' or 'guidelines'

well now that begs the question godman

do you think people should be arrested/fined for sodomy

not arrested; but punished

fine? or just social berating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONg4SK39-Kg

don't tell me cause it hurts

this was also what seems to be a forgein concept anymore; that a community has always used ridicule and scorn which is different that the State's application of law and force

this was also what seems to be a forgein concept anymore; that a community has always used ridicule and scorn which is different that the State's application of law and force

say what?

you cant last

everything MA says that has a hint of intelligence is a copypasta

well the problem godman is that the liberal media, universities... etc etc. have undermined the effectiveness of ridicule and scorn @ManAnimal

the community should most certainly ridicule sodomy and behaviours that don't conform to the standards of the majority. people are of course, free to rebel or protest but there has been and always WILL be a 'social cost' which most aren't willing to pay

they are taught.. well even if you are ridiculed... HAVE PRIDE

true i think it goes deeper than that even

nothing given is ever appreciated

what? libs use saul alinski rules to ridicule all the time.

in the past, one had to EARN the right to be heard on the next largest stage