Message from @4SidedTriangle

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2019-10-16 23:07:38 UTC  

Just get a big property

2019-10-16 23:07:42 UTC  

@Killzone the body that has no military or police to back it up

2019-10-16 23:07:44 UTC  

Name it "The State"

2019-10-16 23:07:44 UTC  

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

2019-10-16 23:08:06 UTC  

Enact all laws held in traditional society, but apply em only on your property

2019-10-16 23:08:07 UTC  

And boom

2019-10-16 23:08:25 UTC  

Actually, morality exists a priori the State. The State is just an institution that (at least in theory) enforces it.

2019-10-16 23:08:36 UTC  

Can't NAP if you don't understand NAP. Protips

2019-10-16 23:08:39 UTC  

@Marushia Dark oh, okay, why not be under muslim rule?

2019-10-16 23:08:42 UTC  

morality exists

2019-10-16 23:08:43 UTC  

diddle kids

2019-10-16 23:08:45 UTC  

why not?

2019-10-16 23:08:47 UTC  

Also, should point out I'm a minarchist, not an anarchist

2019-10-16 23:08:52 UTC  

Correct, but don't get caught out and suggest morality comes from religion 🤔

2019-10-16 23:08:57 UTC  

if morality exists before the state

2019-10-16 23:09:05 UTC  

whats wrong with muslims?

2019-10-16 23:09:06 UTC  

Religions fulfil the same function as states tbh

2019-10-16 23:09:09 UTC  

they have morality.

2019-10-16 23:09:10 UTC  

true, but morality is the function of the individual and ethics is the function of the community

2019-10-16 23:09:13 UTC  

they have a lot of morality.

2019-10-16 23:09:16 UTC  

In an Anarchist/Libertarian society couldn't I just set up a court of arbitration that takes the stance the children can consent @Marushia Dark

2019-10-16 23:09:17 UTC  

and they also fuck goats.

2019-10-16 23:09:27 UTC  

@Storin Moral philosophy exists independent of organized religion

2019-10-16 23:09:34 UTC  

then it wouldnt be anarchist

2019-10-16 23:09:45 UTC  

youd be establishing a governing body

2019-10-16 23:09:46 UTC  

religion is a subset of philosophy

2019-10-16 23:09:54 UTC  

hence no longwe anarchy

2019-10-16 23:10:20 UTC  

True, a few in here would disagree though and suggest religion as the basis of a moral compass, I disagree with that for the same reason of leaving your moral compass dictated by statute and law

2019-10-16 23:10:38 UTC  

@Marushia Dark
>morality exists outside of state or religion, morality cant be subjective
>morality in the sand-nigger lands consists of fucking goats, marrying 8 year olds, and putting women in bags
>**but it'll be our morality, enforced by our nonexistent police and military!**

2019-10-16 23:10:39 UTC  

TL:DR

2019-10-16 23:10:52 UTC  

inb4 "me strong man me no need religion dum dum"

2019-10-16 23:11:05 UTC  

ethics and law are bookends; law can never be used to impose ethics/morality in a free society

2019-10-16 23:11:18 UTC  

religion is dumb 🤷

2019-10-16 23:11:33 UTC  

@Storin Having studied law, I would agree with you except in this: there's a technical difference between law and statute. The technical definition of law, as used in that domain, refers to moral order (do as thou will, but harm none), as opposed to statute, which is the arbitrary whim of a legislator

2019-10-16 23:11:45 UTC  

religion is an idea and thus has no brain and cannnot be dumb

2019-10-16 23:11:45 UTC  

Invisible space fairies that cant impact the world because reasons have no purpose nor requirement for worship

2019-10-16 23:11:57 UTC  

@Marushia Dark WE MUST REMOVE OUR MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX and let the chinese roll us over

2019-10-16 23:12:00 UTC  

okay buddy retard

2019-10-16 23:12:01 UTC  

Religion is --dumb-- wrong

2019-10-16 23:12:11 UTC  

strike through fail