Message from @Spooky Melon

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2019-10-16 23:13:25 UTC  

your argument was bombing kids

2019-10-16 23:13:30 UTC  

okay, lets get rid of the military then.

2019-10-16 23:13:34 UTC  

this makes no sense.

2019-10-16 23:13:36 UTC  

@Spooky Melon It's called defending the homeland and not starting shit elsewhere in the world

2019-10-16 23:13:39 UTC  

It has the potential to be bad or good, it depends on who is authorising the orders tbh

2019-10-16 23:13:47 UTC  

it encourages use of force over diplomacy

2019-10-16 23:13:59 UTC  

if all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail

2019-10-16 23:14:04 UTC  

ah yes]

2019-10-16 23:14:07 UTC  

@Marushia Dark oh, so to defend the homeland, we should never leave our soil, and instead wait for our enemies to be larger and stronger than us before they attack.

2019-10-16 23:14:07 UTC  

diplomacy

2019-10-16 23:14:12 UTC  

It's the difference between me keeping a gun in my house in case a burglar tries to break in versus me breaking into my neighbor's house and shooting his family

2019-10-16 23:14:17 UTC  

with gommies and muzzies

2019-10-16 23:14:17 UTC  

You get rid of the military you get steam rolled- the west literally did the same with gadafi and saddam

2019-10-16 23:14:29 UTC  

cuz that works so well

2019-10-16 23:14:30 UTC  

@Marushia Dark we should never intervene, and frankly, we should've let the soviets take over all of asia.

2019-10-16 23:14:31 UTC  

kek

2019-10-16 23:14:36 UTC  

is that what you're arguing?

2019-10-16 23:14:42 UTC  

diplomacy brought down the USSR as much as anything

2019-10-16 23:14:48 UTC  

because to never leave our country

2019-10-16 23:14:49 UTC  

Civilian populations in the west will most likely never be called upon in the event of a military conflict because most of them are useless tbh

2019-10-16 23:14:53 UTC  

allows the soviets

2019-10-16 23:14:57 UTC  

to have done

2019-10-16 23:14:58 UTC  

way more

2019-10-16 23:15:00 UTC  

than was allowed.

2019-10-16 23:15:04 UTC  

"oh, so to defend the homeland, we should never leave our soil, and instead wait for our enemies to be larger and stronger than us before they attack."

Basically, yes. It's the NAP applied to nations. You don't pre-emptively punish people

2019-10-16 23:15:06 UTC  

diplomacy aagainst soviets

2019-10-16 23:15:10 UTC  

not with them

2019-10-16 23:15:16 UTC  

@Marushia Dark thats how you fucking **lose**

2019-10-16 23:15:27 UTC  

are you trying to get stomped in a global conflict?

2019-10-16 23:15:28 UTC  

the nukes did moe to keep peace thn any ambassador ever did

2019-10-16 23:15:52 UTC  

I should clarify, we should also be building up OUR forces, but AT HOME, not abroad. Keep the biggest stick, but speak softly

2019-10-16 23:15:52 UTC  

NAP is ineffective and unenforceable

2019-10-16 23:16:00 UTC  

@Marushia Dark thank you neville chmberlain

2019-10-16 23:16:04 UTC  

I agree with @Marushia Dark assesment. It becomes a self-fullfing argument if one is allowed to utilize military force pre-emptively

2019-10-16 23:16:09 UTC  

"hurr-durr, we shouldn't have gone in and fucked on ISIS, we should've sat at home while they keep sending terrorists at us"

2019-10-16 23:16:18 UTC  

"they'll wear themselves out eventually"

2019-10-16 23:16:20 UTC  

fucking

2019-10-16 23:16:21 UTC  

so an army of inexperienced fighters

2019-10-16 23:16:22 UTC  

stupid

2019-10-16 23:16:30 UTC  

as always your knowledge of geopolitical strategy is as sharp as it was in 1935

2019-10-16 23:16:33 UTC  

to be fair the whole war with ISIS was ultimately pointless