Message from @Spooky Melon
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your argument was bombing kids
okay, lets get rid of the military then.
this makes no sense.
@Spooky Melon It's called defending the homeland and not starting shit elsewhere in the world
It has the potential to be bad or good, it depends on who is authorising the orders tbh
it encourages use of force over diplomacy
if all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail
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@Marushia Dark oh, so to defend the homeland, we should never leave our soil, and instead wait for our enemies to be larger and stronger than us before they attack.
diplomacy
It's the difference between me keeping a gun in my house in case a burglar tries to break in versus me breaking into my neighbor's house and shooting his family
with gommies and muzzies
You get rid of the military you get steam rolled- the west literally did the same with gadafi and saddam
cuz that works so well
@Marushia Dark we should never intervene, and frankly, we should've let the soviets take over all of asia.
kek
is that what you're arguing?
diplomacy brought down the USSR as much as anything
because to never leave our country
Civilian populations in the west will most likely never be called upon in the event of a military conflict because most of them are useless tbh
to have done
way more
than was allowed.
"oh, so to defend the homeland, we should never leave our soil, and instead wait for our enemies to be larger and stronger than us before they attack."
Basically, yes. It's the NAP applied to nations. You don't pre-emptively punish people
diplomacy aagainst soviets
not with them
@Marushia Dark thats how you fucking **lose**
are you trying to get stomped in a global conflict?
the nukes did moe to keep peace thn any ambassador ever did
I should clarify, we should also be building up OUR forces, but AT HOME, not abroad. Keep the biggest stick, but speak softly
NAP is ineffective and unenforceable
@Marushia Dark thank you neville chmberlain
I agree with @Marushia Dark assesment. It becomes a self-fullfing argument if one is allowed to utilize military force pre-emptively
"hurr-durr, we shouldn't have gone in and fucked on ISIS, we should've sat at home while they keep sending terrorists at us"
"they'll wear themselves out eventually"
fucking
so an army of inexperienced fighters
stupid
as always your knowledge of geopolitical strategy is as sharp as it was in 1935
to be fair the whole war with ISIS was ultimately pointless