if someone says liberal here in america, i have to ask them to define it for me because I don't know which group they are describing anymore.

No, it is not

Exactly, Chimera

And if you have to ask what it means, then it falls down as a descriptor

The majority of people in America mean "lean slightly or far to the left" by liberal, it's pretty ubiquitous, the only people that don't mean that are "Minds IRL" people

Many people who have largely Progressive views consider themselves to be Liberal which really skews how you can define it

And they're a minority

That's because the majority of people in America are fat or retarded or both

A substantial Minority

I mean did you see the Minds IRL people? Not exactly paragons of thinness

I'm not interested in Minds IRL

Me neither

I'm interested in why you thought it appropriate to come on here and mutter about some throw-away comment by the hairpiece in chiefe

The whole fucking thing from 2015 onwards has been one monumental collection of unjustifiable shit

And it was all started, whether you are in the USA whinging about trump, or in the UK about leaving the EU, by those same people you are calling "liberals"

It goes against what the founder of this Discord supposedly believes in so I thought you know, the people here might find it *interesting*

Guess not

I don't give a brass shit about what the founder of Discord supposedly believes

I don't know who he is, or what he thinks

This Discord not Discord in general, can you read?

What is it with you people and your obsession with authority figures?

?????

Let me make it clear to you then

Dude, the people on this Discord are likely to be followers of the person who founded it, does that make sense to you?

Therefore I thought they might find it interesting

Forced purchase of land on grounds of national security, which buying up land at the border with mexico for the purposes of border walls, is a pragmatic trade-off between ideological purity of property rights, and the other ideological purity, such as the role of the state to protect the nation and it's citizens

And *I* might get an interesting conversation or debate out of that

It is subject to rules, and subject to judicial review

So since I was bored I figured "hey, why not?"

The only problem I would have issue with it at all, at least in this country, is because our judicial system is compromised

@Eccles But you still have to follow the procedures to do that, Trump is saying not to

Or *was*

Trump is a bullshit artist, he'll say that sort of thing deliberately to provoke a reaction. Didn't you hear what one aide said about him?

They said he turns on the news in the morning, and if he doesn't like what they're saying, he'll tweet or say something deliberately provocative to change it

Ok, here we go 4D chess, just say it

No, not 4d chess

Fucking simple diversion tactics only an absolute retard would fall for

LIke the entire "liberal" media establishment

Oh wait

How many billions of dollars in free advertising has Trump had now, paid for by his opponents?

Oh, so him telling his staff things that leak out is deliberate in order to fool people into doing what he wants is your claim? Ok, so that's different from "4D chess" how?