and wouldn't forming that kind of group be antithetical to anarchy?

yeah, "violent thugs" describes many anarchists well, so...

it just creates the 'problem' they got themselves out of

I'd imagine that a "pure" or total anarchy (no hierarchy at all) would disappear pretty fast when people start to organize themselves to protect themselves and so on

well when you own nothing and you achieve nothing, you won't need a government to protect your property rights.

it might even end up worse than before because how do you hold a mock government to account when it's decided by who has the biggest stick makes the rules?

Reminds me of that video Sargon did titled "Antifa Battle Strategies".

But my understanding is that no-one really is advocating for that, at least the anarchists I've chatted with want a system that is based on smaller communities freely organizing in any manner they want and voting on everything

...which is still really unrealistic

Yeah, we've far advanced away from small tribes, how do they expect to survive if we suddenly isolate ourselves away from each other?

curious which one of those smaller communities will build dams and fund cancer research, etc.

or hell, provide food, water, energy etc

even manpower might become a more valuable resource

Not only that but small communities wouldn't really need to vote because you already know the people ~~or should~~

people's standards of living would certainly drop, if they're limited to what their particular tribe has available

no one will be able to specialise anymore because everyone will have to work the fields

To be fair, while I had some fun discussing things like anarchy in the past, I usually refuse to even debate anarchy these days. It's a waste of time.

so no more scientists, engineers, ...

Anarchy is universally bad.

then of course medical standards would drop because not everywhere can have well trained doctors, even if they do could they afford them etc?

Amen to that Ulon

And most sane people agree...

Anarchy is certainly a worthless proposition, but it's still entertaining to pick it apart

Garbage views are always fun to pick apart 'w'

I guess that they think that anarchy will just happen overnight, without any loss of infrastructure and workers will take over factories and hospitals autonomously and everything will be more or less as now, but free from oppression etc

It definitely is when there is someone with you who wants it 😄

But I did not have that opportunity in a very long time

same, haven't met an anarchist ever since I left high school

I put it down among all the other ideologies that only work when you are 15 and "seem cool"

shame these seem to be lasting with people well into adulthood nowadays

Some war would quickly fix that

hard times make strong men, ... and all that

when they don't have problems in their life, they'd rather create them

Makes people grateful for what they have when they realize how quickly life can be extinguished

Dragon, I don't think that problem with anarchists is very new

Sounds like the description of Twitter

Or social media in general lol

Which is my main source of left-wing lunacy

I once read about pre-civil war Spain and it seems that they were busy assassinating important folks back then

Not even communists (though these would become friends later on), just "anarchists"

I would imagine that's a common first step, if not a required one. How else will you forcibly remove people from power without bloodshed?