Message from @randomNPCno3

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2019-11-22 19:43:43 UTC  

I don’t know if we have any evidence to suggest it does lifelong harm to the child other then the skin not being there anymore. To circle back to your tattoo thing... idk if a culture tatted a circle on everyone st birth

2019-11-22 19:43:48 UTC  

I’m like bruh that’s sick

2019-11-22 19:43:53 UTC  

That’s dope af

2019-11-22 19:44:27 UTC  

i argue you just extend it universally, you do not outlaw specific practices, your outlaw the behavior.

2019-11-22 19:44:48 UTC  

Hmmmm nah not gonna do that

2019-11-22 19:45:07 UTC  

I still don’t view any evidence you’ve given as not being anything other then reasons that are subjective

2019-11-22 19:45:10 UTC  

tattoos on children are in fact illegal in the united states

2019-11-22 19:45:32 UTC  

atleast below a certain age threshhold

2019-11-22 19:45:39 UTC  

Well ink in a young child might actually be toxic

2019-11-22 19:45:44 UTC  

For all i know. Idk

2019-11-22 19:45:50 UTC  

Basically if you accept that your kid≠you than you should have an issue with these practices

2019-11-22 19:46:27 UTC  

its not toxic, it is a violation of thier bodily autonomy

2019-11-22 19:46:34 UTC  

^

2019-11-22 19:46:49 UTC  

It's the biggest issue i have with abortion

2019-11-22 19:47:21 UTC  

Your body your choice is fine, that kid isn't your body

2019-11-22 19:47:56 UTC  

its not for safety its to be morality consistent with the basic fundaments of the idea of human rights.

2019-11-22 19:47:59 UTC  

> that kid isn't your body
But it's leeching off you @randomNPCno3

2019-11-22 19:48:04 UTC  
2019-11-22 19:48:05 UTC  

Again I’m not a huge fan of the individualism of today.. and even then if an adult cuts themselves up they’ll be deemed not mentally well

2019-11-22 19:48:07 UTC  

Do you kill leeches?

2019-11-22 19:48:32 UTC  

@HunterxTitan no, I take them off and release them

2019-11-22 19:48:37 UTC  

And if you can't?

2019-11-22 19:48:40 UTC  

Then, you kill them.

2019-11-22 19:48:47 UTC  

And stopped from doing so... so... idk even adults don’t have full autonomy even in our current system

2019-11-22 19:48:50 UTC  

its not individualism today, it is the basis of the constitution.

2019-11-22 19:49:30 UTC  

Killing a leech still attached is dangerous, you don't do it. And getting them to release is incredibly simple. Worst case scenario you just wait

2019-11-22 19:49:44 UTC  

> you don't do it
You do if there's no other option.

2019-11-22 19:49:51 UTC  

Same for abortion.

2019-11-22 19:50:05 UTC  

the fundamental right is based on man, on its own, without the interference of an outside force.

2019-11-22 19:50:16 UTC  

There's always another option, that is better than forcing anticoagulants into the wound

2019-11-22 19:50:30 UTC  

"Hur dur, don't have sex"

2019-11-22 19:50:41 UTC  

Pick a better metaphor

2019-11-22 19:50:48 UTC  

That one doesn't work

2019-11-22 19:50:49 UTC  

The constitution in many ways is based on a traditional view shai. It specifically says our rights are endowed by god

2019-11-22 19:51:07 UTC  

A higher power

2019-11-22 19:51:12 UTC  

Not specifically god

2019-11-22 19:51:28 UTC  

Something transcendental. So it cannot be taken off of this earth . And well that’s your view random but our forefathers called it god

2019-11-22 19:51:32 UTC  

And that’s important

2019-11-22 19:51:34 UTC  

A metaphorical force that outranks the state

2019-11-22 19:51:59 UTC  

yes but the philosophical frame work underlying it and all natural rights come from one idea, man in its natural state.

2019-11-22 19:52:06 UTC  

Metaphor worked fine