Message from @PureEvilPie

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2019-11-20 14:04:39 UTC  

so its adjusted for inflation... I dunno how they got by on whatever 25bn was back then

2019-11-20 14:04:53 UTC  

Would be interesting to see how that breaks down in terms of per capita

2019-11-20 14:04:57 UTC  

imagine if it was still 25bn (so it just grew with inflation)

2019-11-20 14:10:07 UTC  

I agree. More than likely fear porn on some fronts from those elected to present “facts” to the people

2019-11-20 14:18:29 UTC  

You can throw money at the NHS doesn’t mean it’s going to be more functioning

2019-11-20 14:18:45 UTC  

Tories have mismanaged it like they’ve mismanaged education

2019-11-20 14:19:27 UTC  

pick up a paper from any decade in the last 50 years and youll see "nhs in crisis"

2019-11-20 14:19:51 UTC  

Yea cause when it’s in a bad situation, making it even worse is a good thing

2019-11-20 14:20:09 UTC  

and yet the US commonwealth produces an aggregate report every year and the NHS has been ranked best in the world for at least the last 20 years

2019-11-20 14:20:25 UTC  

Citation on that

2019-11-20 14:22:43 UTC  

They aren’t global rankings

2019-11-20 14:23:03 UTC  

That’s best out of that selection of countries

2019-11-20 14:23:31 UTC  

It’s not comparing with Scandinavia, japan, Singapore etc

2019-11-20 14:23:51 UTC  

scandanavian countries are checked

2019-11-20 14:23:57 UTC  

They are not there

2019-11-20 14:24:00 UTC  

I’m reading it now

2019-11-20 14:24:01 UTC  

sweden

2019-11-20 14:24:04 UTC  

norway

2019-11-20 14:24:23 UTC  

In one of those charts

2019-11-20 14:24:37 UTC  

Most are just commonwealth

2019-11-20 14:24:45 UTC  

And regardless none of them are a global ranking

2019-11-20 14:24:55 UTC  

So “best in the world” is false

2019-11-20 14:25:19 UTC  

Scandinavia isnt a good representation for any system imo

2019-11-20 14:25:22 UTC  

and one of them has us 10th in health care outcomes

2019-11-20 14:25:31 UTC  

But 1st in admin?

2019-11-20 14:25:39 UTC  

One of them is clearly more important than the other

2019-11-20 14:25:41 UTC  

they all have worst health...

2019-11-20 14:25:46 UTC  

its not worst health care

2019-11-20 14:25:51 UTC  

its worst health of the people

2019-11-20 14:26:06 UTC  

Your charts show that we do well compared to commonwealth countries

2019-11-20 14:26:10 UTC  

as in people eat shit and dont take care of themselves

2019-11-20 14:26:18 UTC  

And one chart which has Sweden and Norway and Switzerland

2019-11-20 14:27:12 UTC  

You should read that article

2019-11-20 14:27:21 UTC  

The most important metric is where we are worst

2019-11-20 14:27:23 UTC  

However, on outcomes the NHS still lags behind. Too many people die where appropriate medical care could save them and survival rates for eight of the 12 the most lethal diseases are poor, though improving for stroke and cancer.