The game is politics, and the goal is what you want it to be

What's everyone's opinions on pulling out the ECHR and ammending the HRA to better suit Britain?

echr is basically the doctrine of fascism 2.0

Well there's a strong opinion lmao

Pull out once a comprehensive replacement has been developed and a complete portfolio of the failings of the ECHR has been generated for talking points

its just lists your rights, then explains how the state can take them from you

doing so before having that would be a massive political risk

@notaglobe I agree

because if the opposition find a way to block the replacement the talking point of "cons being bad because human rights" will be plastered everywhere

and we'll end up back into it

also human rights lol

I don't like that we have to keep terrorists in the country if their country of origin is shit

article 10 para 1: you have free speech! ... para 2: if your nation doesnt like what you say they will arrest you

There's only 1 absolute right in the convention

Right to freedom from torture

i'm unsure on this @JackH670

i don't want them here

the UN article of human rights are much more simple... just defines your rights, nothing about "exceptions"

but I also don't want to send people back to their country of origin for petty offenses or possible made up ones from a leftist gov

That happens anyway

idk man

They get blocked if there's a suspicion that they'll be tortured

i'm with you in spirit

but i'm also a bit on the fence about how we could implement whilst also coving our own asses from future govs

also .. they copied the rights on marriage... but for some reason they skipped out the word "consenting" adults

I mean any parliament can choose to revoke the HRA at any point

parliamnet could choose to do a lot of things

but it might not be political feasable

we both know that boris could have come up with many ways to make brexit happen on brexit day

but he didn;t

because it would cause problems

on the topic of european courts

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/sep/18/strasbourg-judges-indeterminate-sentences-unlawful

and instead of the right to own property ... you have "the right to 'enjoy' property"

i'm hearing this guy was let out because of this ruling

abolishing IPP

Uh oh

woooow

So this might come up in political discussion soon then

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/andrew-castle/london-bridge-sadiq-khan-lbc-real-challenge-terror/

500 year sentences now then

the top trending on twitter is basically "british bad" "immigrants from poland great!"