Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-11-05 04:33:19 UTC  

Therefore atheism and non-theism is not the same today, even though it could've happened to be the same if history had gone differently

2019-11-05 04:34:19 UTC  

It's like the difference between being social and being pro-social. You can argue it means the same thing, or not, depending on how you're arguing.

2019-11-05 04:34:39 UTC  

The terminology is not as important, the meaning or the definition is what matters

2019-11-05 04:34:53 UTC  

Agnostic atheism and non-theism is the same.

2019-11-05 04:35:17 UTC  

No they're not, I've explained why that isn't the case

2019-11-05 04:35:33 UTC  

Yeah, you believe in non-god supernatural, then.

2019-11-05 04:35:39 UTC  

lol no

2019-11-05 04:35:47 UTC  

I explained that in even greater detail

2019-11-05 04:35:55 UTC  

You have your definitions where atheist cannot believe in elves, where as non-theists can.

2019-11-05 04:36:02 UTC  

...

2019-11-05 04:36:04 UTC  

And you are a non-theist, not an atheist.

2019-11-05 04:36:11 UTC  

Have you already forgotten the difference between supernatural and paranormal?

2019-11-05 04:36:29 UTC  

So you believe in paranormal?

2019-11-05 04:36:34 UTC  

I don't, no

2019-11-05 04:36:44 UTC  

What is your point?

2019-11-05 04:36:56 UTC  

Other non-theists can believe in the paranormal

2019-11-05 04:37:17 UTC  

If you don't believe in supernatural or paranormal, you are even by your re-definition, an atheist, rather than non-theist.

2019-11-05 04:37:18 UTC  

Since I don't, clearly there's a separation between them and me. But we all don't believe in the supernatural.

2019-11-05 04:37:54 UTC  

No, an atheist rejects God(s) altogether, I don't

2019-11-05 04:38:02 UTC  

So you are a theist?

2019-11-05 04:38:03 UTC  

I allow for the *possibility* that God(s) could exist

2019-11-05 04:38:10 UTC  

No, I see the possibility only

2019-11-05 04:38:15 UTC  

That's agnostic atheist.

2019-11-05 04:38:17 UTC  

Yes

2019-11-05 04:38:32 UTC  

Ok. You admitted it. Agnostic **atheist**.

2019-11-05 04:38:41 UTC  

Glad we got to the conclusion.

2019-11-05 04:38:46 UTC  

Yes, because that's how the terminology evolved over time, but I'm not an *atheist*

2019-11-05 04:39:21 UTC  

Nope, I have it screencapped:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/641134431041749012/unknown.png

2019-11-05 04:39:24 UTC  

You seem to believe that just because people have added the term "atheist" to "agnostic", that somehow makes it different

2019-11-05 04:39:35 UTC  

Agnostic = agnostic atheist

2019-11-05 04:39:36 UTC  

But

2019-11-05 04:39:39 UTC  

Atheist =/= agnostic

2019-11-05 04:39:53 UTC  

The most proper terminology would be agnostic

2019-11-05 04:40:04 UTC  

Agnostic atheist is just a fancy term for saying "I'm kinda uncertain what I am"

2019-11-05 04:40:07 UTC  

Agnostic != agnostic atheist, because agnostic can also be agnostic theist.

2019-11-05 04:40:12 UTC  

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2019-11-05 04:40:16 UTC  

Wrong, Agnostic = agnostic atheist

2019-11-05 04:40:22 UTC  

Agnostic atheist is only a subgroup of agnostics.

2019-11-05 04:40:26 UTC  

No it's not

2019-11-05 04:40:36 UTC  

Explain what the difference is between agnosticism and agnostic atheism

2019-11-05 04:40:39 UTC  

You are an atheist:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/641134758478348298/unknown.png