Message from @ETBrooD
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Try answering that question.
No thx, I like sticking to the topic, because I know what I'm talking about, unlike you
Answe the fucking question.
Fuck my typing.
This is a quote from you
It fits the definition of agnosticism
No it is not.
Isn't? Or doesn't?
It IS a quote from you
You literally said this earlier
The "agnostic atheist" line has the same meaning as the definition of agnosticism
It only states it's unknowable. It does not include "It's knowable but I don't believe in god". There's extra stuff added with agnostic atheism compared to only agnosticism.
Agnosticism overlaps with atheism and with theism.
There are theists who don't claim they can prove god exists.
Ah, so now you do admit that agnosticism is outside of atheism, and therefore non-theism is not = atheism?
No, only agnostic atheism overlaps with atheism
Agnosticism does not
So now finally
Do you admit that ideas other than atheism and theism exist?
i.e. non-theism
Your own line of reasoning leads to that conclusion
any time somebody describes themselves as agnostic, they're usually functionally atheist.
They live atheist and are generally set in their stance, not actually being on the fence and willing to flop over into the theist's lawn.
To me, at least, it just seems to be a noncommittal position, one of indifference, or a desire to avoid actually being involved in the conflict of whether or not God exists.
Rather, "I just don't care."
i call my self a "militant agnostic", and affirmatively declare the position of "unknowable". my attitude is to mock anyone who pretends to "know"
in practice, i end up acting/thinking like an atheist, but search for theistic-ish inspiration.
i simultaneously despise *and* sympathize with both sides.
make of that whatever you will.
(p.s., i entered rehab a long time ago as an angry anti-theist ... if that sheds any light)
I don't think it's possible to arrive at any theistic inspirations without actually being open to God.
It's something akin to a Wiccan thinking that they can glean power or favor or inspiration from just any god[dess] through lip service alone.
nah, i don't think that's what i mean
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what the fresh-baked fudge is theistic-ish inspiration
i find myself asking a lot of "what if" type questions, and letting my mind just see where it ends up.
cuz not knowing shit if fucked.
that has nothing to do with theism
hence the "-ish"
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Nothing is still less than ish