Message from @whiic

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2019-11-05 04:45:05 UTC  

It's bullshit just like SJW made-up genders

2019-11-05 04:45:11 UTC  

You either believe or you don't

2019-11-05 04:45:20 UTC  

Because libertarian contains that which you ask the difference agaisnt.

2019-11-05 04:45:40 UTC  

Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable. Another definition provided is the view that "human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist."

2019-11-05 04:45:42 UTC  

@ETBrooD What is the difference between libertarian and rightwing libertarian?

2019-11-05 04:45:48 UTC  

Try answering that question.

2019-11-05 04:46:00 UTC  

No thx, I like sticking to the topic, because I know what I'm talking about, unlike you

2019-11-05 04:46:14 UTC  

Answe the fucking question.

2019-11-05 04:46:22 UTC  

Fuck my typing.

2019-11-05 04:46:28 UTC  

This is a quote from you

2019-11-05 04:46:35 UTC  

It fits the definition of agnosticism

2019-11-05 04:46:47 UTC  

No it is not.

2019-11-05 04:46:56 UTC  

Isn't? Or doesn't?

2019-11-05 04:46:59 UTC  

It IS a quote from you

2019-11-05 04:47:15 UTC  

You literally said this earlier

2019-11-05 04:47:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/641136453740658688/unknown.png

2019-11-05 04:47:58 UTC  

The "agnostic atheist" line has the same meaning as the definition of agnosticism

2019-11-05 04:48:12 UTC  

It only states it's unknowable. It does not include "It's knowable but I don't believe in god". There's extra stuff added with agnostic atheism compared to only agnosticism.

2019-11-05 04:48:25 UTC  

Agnosticism overlaps with atheism and with theism.

2019-11-05 04:48:39 UTC  

There are theists who don't claim they can prove god exists.

2019-11-05 04:49:03 UTC  

Ah, so now you do admit that agnosticism is outside of atheism, and therefore non-theism is not = atheism?

2019-11-05 04:49:48 UTC  

No, only agnostic atheism overlaps with atheism

2019-11-05 04:49:49 UTC  

Agnosticism does not

2019-11-05 04:49:58 UTC  

Agnosticism does not overlap with atheism

2019-11-05 04:50:22 UTC  

So now finally

2019-11-05 04:50:34 UTC  

Do you admit that ideas other than atheism and theism exist?

2019-11-05 04:50:37 UTC  

i.e. non-theism

2019-11-05 04:50:53 UTC  

Your own line of reasoning leads to that conclusion

2019-11-05 05:21:24 UTC  

any time somebody describes themselves as agnostic, they're usually functionally atheist.

2019-11-05 05:22:05 UTC  

They live atheist and are generally set in their stance, not actually being on the fence and willing to flop over into the theist's lawn.

2019-11-05 05:23:37 UTC  

To me, at least, it just seems to be a noncommittal position, one of indifference, or a desire to avoid actually being involved in the conflict of whether or not God exists.

2019-11-05 05:23:51 UTC  

Rather, "I just don't care."

2019-11-05 05:38:15 UTC  

i call my self a "militant agnostic", and affirmatively declare the position of "unknowable". my attitude is to mock anyone who pretends to "know"
in practice, i end up acting/thinking like an atheist, but search for theistic-ish inspiration.
i simultaneously despise *and* sympathize with both sides.

make of that whatever you will.

2019-11-05 05:43:27 UTC  

(p.s., i entered rehab a long time ago as an angry anti-theist ... if that sheds any light)

2019-11-05 05:54:41 UTC  

I don't think it's possible to arrive at any theistic inspirations without actually being open to God.

2019-11-05 05:55:23 UTC  

It's something akin to a Wiccan thinking that they can glean power or favor or inspiration from just any god[dess] through lip service alone.

2019-11-05 05:56:35 UTC  

nah, i don't think that's what i mean
....

2019-11-05 05:56:57 UTC  

what the fresh-baked fudge is theistic-ish inspiration

2019-11-05 05:57:36 UTC  

i find myself asking a lot of "what if" type questions, and letting my mind just see where it ends up.