why exactly do you think race itself is important? if a different race came along with the exact same values, culture etc, (yes ik that generally people all have differences there, but just humor the question lol), would their skin colour still matter??

as a pragmatist, the conversation only matters in terms of what to do about at

as an individualist, race is irrelevant to me when it comes policy and treatment

i understand why police check on black people more often than white people, because statistically they are more likely to have a reason to be investigated or stopped/questioned

but usually the racial thing is to do with ethnostate or immigration

and as a 'meritocrisist', race isnt relevent, its mindset and skills

like i cant take an argument seriously where 'deport all blacks because it isnt their country' when it also would include Thomas Sowell

countries should keep their culture, and people should go to countries where they want to assimilate the culture, unless of course the culture of the country is not one that supports assimilation

and if you ARE a country that rejects assimilation, youre probably some country no one remembers from the 12th century because you were taken over by a different culture and changed

also what about in cases of interacial children

like a white mother with white parents, and a black man with 1 white parent, but the guy is black and the child is black

at that point, the terms of black/white or any skin colour as the determining factor is lost

and then youd have to force everyone to take a DNA or lineage check, and we have to set a level of 'how black can you be to be allowed to stay in a country'

its just muddy waters and overly complicated when you can promote a meritocratic system which has been trucking along just fine, and is exactly how 'western civilisation' has flourished way more than others, instead of a racially divided one

then you have asians too which i dont know why they wouldnt be allowed in the ethnic america, even though they are hyper sucessful generally speaking too

why would you reject the 200IQ super surgeons in china that want to enter your country cuz they smell of sushi

under a meritocratic system, one race might stack up at the bottom, but its better than permanently outing them from being in the system at all because otherwise youd be constantly needing to purge the bottom of the system regardless of race

then the NEW IQ average would move up, but then you still have the 90 and below IQ folk

someone will end up on the bottom no matter what, no matter the racial grouping

then you just wonder why the fuck you bothered unless you just hate black people and dont want them

its just such a headache

also its contradictory to the 'white culture', which has succeeded in large part due to promoting individuality

rather contradicary to say youre protecting your culture by doing the opposite of what its founded on

and then also they tag in the Jews and how theyre evil, even though they are at the pinnacle of the distribution

so its like, why shouldnt a country be Jewish since they succeed so hard

(Well my message was more just toward whicc who’s point was on race)

unless its about skin colour and not meritocracy, in which case it is definitively racist

yeah i figured, i just had a thought i wanted to explore

i value putting words to my thought than just thinking it in my head

(Fair enough, I was gonna just say ignore me if ur point wasn’t on me)

i maximizing my big brain points for all to see and revere

I don't that much disagree with the wall of text, I just don't know who's statements it tried to address.

I was only putting into question snake's dedication to his ethnonationalism, as he wants male-only draft to continue to exist and be further implemented by banning use of volunteers/mercenaries (which does show a tendency toward nationalism and fascism, where citizens are subjects and property of the state) but didn't want to impose criminal penalties on child-free women (despite continuing disappearance of white race to below replacement rate breeding).

I was also pointing out the blatant gynocentrism in implementing force to force nation's wishes: a nation that is fascist to men but liberal to women.

>TFW you're so ethno-nationalist you'll deport minorities instead of using them as a valuable resource in warfare.

Yeah I don’t know what to say, I was talking about conscription dawg

The biggest issue Whiic has with my position is because it’s not fair or equal. Men have to go to the front lines with a rifle but women aren’t forced by law to have children

The reason men get forced to and women don’t is 1. The democratization of the military to end the use of mercenaries. 2. In true conflict where the nation state is at risk of falling we need the man power

Because if it a brutal war such as WW1 or WW2 or a Civil War

I think we need to look past the unfairness of it and realize that wars need to be kept and check and if a real invasion happened we need soldiers

Didn’t have anything to do with ethnic nationalism

I didn’t bring it up