so anyone got opinions on Fuentes and his followers cause idk what's going on

Tbh, Pearl Clutching over Holocaust Denial is Cringe

Personally, I don't think the fact that it happened or not is debatable; the scale, on the other hand, is.

It's semantics when it comes to scale because 100,000 to 600,000 is a big jump numerically but morally it's irrelevant once you start systematically killing people in any qauntity.

it's a bit odd that people always tout the largest estimate

normally if there's a range you just go with the middle estimate

Well 6 million isn't the highest estimate

it's the most likely estimate

7+ million may be high estimate

5 million is the low estimate I believe, some even go as low as 4.6

So 4.6 to 7 million, 6 is ironically in the middle

then there are non jews, so like 12-13 million in the holocaust is reasonable

you also have to understand 60 million people died in the war, many jews were just outright murdered and never brought to camps

There are mass graves all over Europe, some of which are still being found, where nazis just round people up and shot them

When you include those figures in to the total numbers, the deaths of jews and other groups such as gyspies invariably goes up

@Spooky Blobs

All I know is that every time I try to ask a groyper WTF the issue is they sperg out and get upset I am not riveted by the drama. I'm not even a fan of TPUSA but am inclined to side with them because they look good by comparison.

all these fucking made up words, how do they expect anyone to just intuit what the fuck they're talking about

the fuck is a groyper

@everybodydothatdinosaur

It's kinda fucked up by history. Most of the killing happened in what became Soviet territory. A power that had a skilled police state and intelligence service trying to weave a national narrative.

@Jokerfaic

Groyper is a particular Pepe. I just know that the Fuentes side has been calling themselves that.

wow, I regret asking, thanks anyway

the Fuentes side bringing in irrelevant shit like the USS Liberty completely distracted from the relevant point that we shouldn't be handing out US citizenship like candy.

the "Staple a green card to a diploma" idea legitimately needed to get called out

the only result of that is that corporations profit more and workers get the fucking shaft

but nooooo, they had to start sperging about jews

We've got hundreds of issues to fix in this country we haven't even started tackling the deficit and some folks are 'contributing' by saying "what about Das Juden?" I think we spend too much on Israel and they can probably take care of themselves. But that's not even in the top 100 problems we have to fix.

Ooga Booga White Man Bad

https://pluralist.com/n-y-justice-dem-white-male-terrorism-is-biggest-issue-in-us/49999

Back on the Holocaust Issue, I've seen plenty of reasonable arguments from a Logistics perspective; Namely how the hell were they able to both carry out an attempted Ethnic Cleansing while at the Same time fighting a War

If your platform is "people of our country are bad" over "foreigners that commit crimes in our country are bad" then you deserve all you get in terms of people listening to you: People not from your country, and people that hate your country. Nothing more.

The tyrant hates all that is good about his own country, and adores that which is foreign, for in the foreign he has no fear of rebellion.

They hate us because they fear us.

It's just standard idolization, think like weebs with Japan. They see the things that come out of it, they love the country, have never been. They know nothing of the country itself, just a mirage of what it represents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBj5Aw9Lno (targeting the Clintons? - bets on when he will commit 'suicide' anyone? )

And many Japanese hate Westerners.

The Degenerates that watch Anime and Cum in Jars

I wouldn't say westerners, xenophobia in general is very common. Outsiders. Americans that look like military men are by far the most hated, and outcasted.

Imagine us going to Japan, Demanding they give us free stuff, housing, etc and speak English

Japan is no better or worse than the U.S.

All Japanese Culture is Anglophobic and must be resisted

Not true.

I'd say it's much worse, my time in Japan had a lot of racism. I knew full well going there, it changed when I put my Canada pin on my hat.