or do you think literally anyone in the running for republican candidate in 2016 was just synonymous with trump

They had to sweep him under the rug as swiftly as humanly possible.

Most republicans are all the same aside from the way they speak

Trump's only standout point was the wall really

Everything else he wanted to do was pretty lockstep Republican

by your logic literally everyone else on stage would have built a wall

"Trumps only standout point was the wall"

Theirs would have just been digital

More boots on the ground

Cameras

Drones

Satellite

Etc

yes, and you're choosing to pretend different candidates don't want different policies, so by your logic every rep candidate would have built a wall

A different type of wall but they all had the "secure the border mentality" trump just wanted a physical wall, a different path to the same end goal of a locked down border.

so until you provide evidence that bernie supports gungrab policy, you're talking out of your ass

O'roarke wanted it, and he's out

no idea what buttigieg wanted on it but iirc he's out too

Bernies entire gun policy is based on shilling for votes, his state is very gun friendly if he came out as pro confiscation that would have been political suicide

Just because you are too much of a progressive lemming to not understand he shills for cotes just like everyone else doesnt mean he doesnt do it

okay fine, I guess I can just chalk up every other candidate for rep in 2016 as having been lying then, and they would have built a wall

no, I just don't put up with bullshit arguments being used against either wing of government

you are deliberately not applying your own logic equally

They all shill for votes its what politicians do

Except I did, I simply said the other reps whated a different type of wall

Different means same end goal

I said that twice you merely chose to ignore it because that was the only actual point you had

did their policy language reflect that, or were they saying 'wall' and meaning something else?

you're the one implying deliberate dishonesty on the part of the candidate, I'm just asking for policy language that you still just hand wave off and say "oh he's just lying"

so were republicans lying, too?

Are you honeslty telling me I should take what a politician says at face value

I want you to say that to yourself outloud slowly

I'm saying stop talking out of your ass and provide proof

Yes I do believe the republicans are lying

Politicians are liars

Its their job

so its cynicism, then, fine

fair enough

Its called realism

and thats called semantics

All politicians shill for votes half of them likely dont believe half of what they advocate