Message from @Marushia Dark

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2019-11-19 02:23:23 UTC  

It's where the influence between China and the US is going to manifest into violence

2019-11-19 02:23:31 UTC  

We're losing the culture war cuz we don't know how to weaponize pathos the way they can. We're fighting Queensbury Rules while they're popping grenades on medics.

2019-11-19 02:23:49 UTC  

just as when a gun grabber quotes shooting statistics, they also count suicides

2019-11-19 02:23:51 UTC  

To quote Bill Whittle

2019-11-19 02:24:15 UTC  

If you wanted to win the culture war your 20 years too late.

2019-11-19 02:24:39 UTC  

Not hardly

2019-11-19 02:24:40 UTC  

My problem with the left is that they do not include the part where we *make them us*, They want to take them in then make *us them*.

2019-11-19 02:24:42 UTC  

this is a 100-years war

2019-11-19 02:25:19 UTC  

Yeah and your nearly 70 years late.

2019-11-19 02:25:38 UTC  

There are no shortage of problems with the left. Not sure if you noticed, I'm center right; but I used to be one of them and listen when they talk and understand better than most how to weaponize pathos in a Rules for Radicals sort of way

2019-11-19 02:25:39 UTC  

What do you mean weaponize pathos?

2019-11-19 02:25:43 UTC  

What does that mean?

2019-11-19 02:25:50 UTC  

When the logos is corrupt?

2019-11-19 02:26:16 UTC  

My Gr. Granpaw left Germany to become American. His son fought the German in WWII. He *became* American. That should be the goal of any migration policy.

2019-11-19 02:26:29 UTC  

^

2019-11-19 02:27:29 UTC  

I can't post images here, that would help simplify, but basically weaponizing feelz, turning their own arguments against them. Facts don't care about your feelings, but facts also don't matter to persuasion, and it's ultimately our goal to persuade people to our way of thinking, yes? Cuz the only alternative is violence. So facts matter to outcomes but not to persuasion. People can't hear the sound of 2+2=4 over their perception of you as a Nazi.

2019-11-19 02:28:18 UTC  

Facts actually do matter to persuasion and its important to always bring them up

2019-11-19 02:28:25 UTC  

Oh I've been called a nazi enough times that I just ignore it.

2019-11-19 02:28:53 UTC  

Facts only persuade when you and the person you're talking to are on the same emotional level. As you might have noticed, that's not the case between left and right atm. They're frightened and hysterical

2019-11-19 02:29:31 UTC  

"Oh, you called me a nazi. Call me a cuck next? Put 'muh' in front of an idea and pretend you made a point?"

2019-11-19 02:29:32 UTC  

Boomer, that's good for you. So have I, but ignoring it doesn't help you reach them rhetorically

2019-11-19 02:30:14 UTC  

I explain in more detail here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9INbMve_ig

2019-11-19 02:31:47 UTC  

Same is true for other things. As a libertarian, how many times have I heard that I apparently hate poor sick roads and their children? Unless I can persuade the person I'm just as compassionate, kind, and fair as them - that ultimately the root of our difference is one of solutions, rather than what the problem is ... unless I can do that, my facts won't land.

2019-11-19 02:31:49 UTC  

You're becoming just as frightened and hysterical trying to avoid being called "racist" for saying race matters or "anti-Semitic" if you question Israeli policy or question something Dan Crenshaw and Abbott tried to pass where federal contractors can't BDS israel if they wanted to, completely suppressing the 1st amendment to those people.

2019-11-19 02:32:17 UTC  

I get called racist daily by never-Trumpers. The term means nothing to me

2019-11-19 02:32:45 UTC  

never-trumpers...you mean antifa wearing a false flag?

2019-11-19 02:32:45 UTC  

Ben Shapiro is a never trumper u boomer

2019-11-19 02:32:57 UTC  

He still is

2019-11-19 02:33:00 UTC  

Keyword used to be

2019-11-19 02:33:03 UTC  

Just needs the sheckles

2019-11-19 02:33:27 UTC  

ben shapiro and, by extension, his whole network, seem to have softened on trump

2019-11-19 02:33:41 UTC  

Not really

2019-11-19 02:33:44 UTC  

They're only soft

2019-11-19 02:33:54 UTC  

When he's doing things they like

2019-11-19 02:33:56 UTC  

Compared to where they were on inauguration night, they really have

2019-11-19 02:33:59 UTC  

When Trump makes a mistake they really don't like they'll burry him.

2019-11-19 02:34:05 UTC  

Like ben shapiro's whole good trump bad trump

2019-11-19 02:34:18 UTC  

If a Republican ran against Trump they wouldn't support Trump if the other candidate had a chance.

2019-11-19 02:34:23 UTC  

isn't that called, "having one's own opinion"?

2019-11-19 02:34:43 UTC  

i see no issue with calling out someone on anything that i take issue with...ally or adversary

2019-11-19 02:35:10 UTC  

Shapiro *was* a never Trumper, I did not vote for Trump in 2016 because we could not know then. He has done a good job since and I will vote for him in 2020.