what agenda is bing pushed nat?

When it comes to statecraft moral implications are a meme.

Yeah that's why I said other than moral ones

But isn't a government supposed to be for its people

What if we pushed for heavy investment into a country, then started influencing their politics from said investments?

What do say the people of the UK gain from exporting democracy? A bunch of dead soldiers and a load of wasted money?

Investment is completely fine

Depending on how it's implemented, a new regional partner, stability and economic benefits?

Actually it's a moral good

Yeah peaceful cooperation is good

So China using debt diplomacy in Africa is a "moral good"

Interesting.

No, say for example we invade a country, then install a puppet regieme

As historically we have done to massive success

Well debt diplomacy can only go so far if you have a decent country that has say a stable democracy

Since if they try to influence your country too much you can refuse to pay debts or confiscate stuff, but if it's purely peaceful and non coercive I don't see the problem

we cant even install a solid goverment here, let alone elsewhere, UK politics is a pisstake

can you imagine the fannys trying to do anything worthwhile

That's what happens when the government controlls so much, a smaller government is more accountable

public hangings of criminals and gov workers would sharpen things up

Lol

sorry, those are one and the same

> you can refuse to pay debts or confiscate stuff
So, theft and then massive condemnation on the world stage and a decreased credit rating, meaning less investment and your economy slowing down?

> non coercive I don't see the problem
Debt diplomacy by its very nature is coercive

China is a special case though since it's the government doing it

I'm all for private investment and such but not the government

Only countries can do debt diplomacy

Sorry you are right this isn't a subject I know much about

Ah that's fair

Lolbertarianism is far too boring

I would say that a government investing in another country with public funds isn't an acceptable way of influencing a nation

I'm all for private investment in other countries and the sharing of ideas and such

But I'd object to my government doing it

Do you not care about your country or state?

I do but I believe that a government should serve its people

I can see an argument for such tactics for national security

The best way that can be done is through taxation and an agressive foreign policy

Yeah I can see that argument

You can't just ignore the geopolitical power game

Putting the state in such an advantageous position over all others, which is serving the interests of the people at the same time

The geopolitical power game is states trying to do just that, what I said.