Message from @Crafty

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2019-11-16 21:08:54 UTC  

A lack of influence by the state.

2019-11-16 21:08:55 UTC  

It depends what regulations you are on about anyway

2019-11-16 21:08:56 UTC  

Through regulation.

2019-11-16 21:09:05 UTC  

In some cases they are, only sometimes though mainly just through regulation and bailouts

2019-11-16 21:09:08 UTC  

Government should break up monopolies

2019-11-16 21:09:16 UTC  

That violates your own principles.

2019-11-16 21:09:27 UTC  

That violates the monopoly owners rights.

2019-11-16 21:09:41 UTC  

Your own system ALREADY contradicts itself.

2019-11-16 21:09:47 UTC  

What about the people that want to get into his field of buisness

2019-11-16 21:09:58 UTC  

They can

2019-11-16 21:09:58 UTC  

Monopolies violate human rights

2019-11-16 21:09:59 UTC  

What about it? They start, he buys them out

2019-11-16 21:10:02 UTC  

Or our competes them.

2019-11-16 21:10:05 UTC  

Only giving people one choice

2019-11-16 21:10:25 UTC  

Theres many ways to be a legal monopoly

2019-11-16 21:10:34 UTC  

A Monopoly doesn't ban them from competing, It just stops their competition from having much of an effect

2019-11-16 21:10:43 UTC  

True, but we're looking at a lolbertarian society here @notaglobe

2019-11-16 21:11:03 UTC  

I’m not economically libertarian just socially

2019-11-16 21:11:07 UTC  

I’m economically centrist

2019-11-16 21:11:17 UTC  

So I like some leftie ideas

2019-11-16 21:11:27 UTC  

i am warming to the idea of a constitution for some core values, but it should be amendable with a large majority

2019-11-16 21:11:47 UTC  

Economic freedom doesn’t always result in personal freedom, sometimes it does but it depends

2019-11-16 21:11:50 UTC  

So you are socially Libertarian yet think some Government laws like Human Rights should be completely unaccountable to the people? @bobthebuilder69

2019-11-16 21:12:06 UTC  

That doesn't work, since your economic principles violate someones human rights.

2019-11-16 21:12:06 UTC  

@Crafty should be difficult to do, including many years of struggle to do so and direct democratic consent

2019-11-16 21:12:11 UTC  

Yeah people shouldn’t be able to violate human rights

2019-11-16 21:12:11 UTC  

You taking tax violates their rights

2019-11-16 21:12:25 UTC  

So then no regulation happens?

2019-11-16 21:12:25 UTC  

That's not really Libertarian then

2019-11-16 21:12:37 UTC  

Then you get monopolies

2019-11-16 21:12:43 UTC  

If we lived in a true free market, slavery and human trafficking would be legal

2019-11-16 21:12:57 UTC  

That’s a violation of human rights is it not

2019-11-16 21:13:01 UTC  

Tbf, monopolies tend to form hostile environments which would be considered against the libertarian world view

2019-11-16 21:13:07 UTC  

And taxation is a necessary evil

2019-11-16 21:13:15 UTC  
2019-11-16 21:13:16 UTC  

Taxation is Theft

2019-11-16 21:13:19 UTC  

^

2019-11-16 21:13:25 UTC  

And violates your principles.

2019-11-16 21:13:28 UTC  

Yeah by definition it is

2019-11-16 21:13:30 UTC  

Taxation must only be theft

2019-11-16 21:13:32 UTC  

It should be done of course but it should be very limited