I’m not economically libertarian just socially

I’m economically centrist

So I like some leftie ideas

i am warming to the idea of a constitution for some core values, but it should be amendable with a large majority

Economic freedom doesn’t always result in personal freedom, sometimes it does but it depends

So you are socially Libertarian yet think some Government laws like Human Rights should be completely unaccountable to the people? @bobthebuilder69

That doesn't work, since your economic principles violate someones human rights.

@Crafty should be difficult to do, including many years of struggle to do so and direct democratic consent

Yeah people shouldn’t be able to violate human rights

You taking tax violates their rights

So then no regulation happens?

That's not really Libertarian then

Then you get monopolies

If we lived in a true free market, slavery and human trafficking would be legal

That’s a violation of human rights is it not

Tbf, monopolies tend to form hostile environments which would be considered against the libertarian world view

And taxation is a necessary evil

@bobthebuilder69 disagree

Taxation is Theft

^

And violates your principles.

Yeah by definition it is

Taxation must only be theft

It should be done of course but it should be very limited

Else it's not taxtion. @notaglobe

Some of my principles also include stuff that would make taxation necessary

Like welfare state

And he poor not starving

The

So MASSIVE theft from people!

So like I said a necessary evil

Taxation is essentially just the State saying that they are going to forcibly seize wealth from you

You dont need a state to stop poor people starving

It's not the hunger games

How are we going to have a state with no tax?

Genuinely, we have food banks now

The food banks are created by the state

Peoples outrage by them are crazy

Why don't we take that reasoning. It's a "necessary evil" to ban full head covers in a public setting for security and safety reasons @bobthebuilder69

@bobthebuilder69 You could just let the people create everything

Not around me