Message from @4rthur
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hahhahahaha
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so how yall doing now?
who all here has kids?
how did yall run up on jlp?
no kids over here. don't want them either. as for jlp, he got thrown up on my recommended videos list on yt. i think it was a compilation of him or something.
ah yeah that's right... i caught his talk with gavin mcinnes, and wished it was longer
Nice, csquare you took the words out of my mouth lol. I’ll add that men that love what is right have that natural integrity to guide them. That force that we call god/godliness.
kids? yikes, am i the youngest person in this group?
i found jlp on twitter, though i've only just recently began to be an avid watcher. i have some mixed views on the guy. i just think he's funny.
same here, narratory, with the occasional show of respectable values and intelligence
i do agree on a lot of what he says though. i guess it's just his execution that bothers me.
occasional.
that's true, anomie!
he's not the only peterson i've got my eye on at the moment. jordan peterson's on my radar these days. i'm unsure about him too, but he's gaining a lot of influence
Another snippet: a man has no problem recognizing the higher power that influences them. Naturally a man loves god.
has jesse had jordan peterson on the show? i reckon they'd both get on pretty well
Jordan Peterson is a interesting guy. I’ve read his books, very good stuff.
@PastPresentFuture can an atheist or agnostic be a man?
ah, nice. i have one of his books coming
When I took my first IQ test I looked him up to see what his degrees of intelligence lecture meant
@csquare I don’t have any kids, once I marry my girlfriend we plan on popping them out like popcorn though. I found Jesse through his fallen state interview with the two black lives matter people. At first I thought he was just a funny guy that trolled the left but i analyzed his message and I can resonate with it. The thing I respect the most about Jesse is that e teaches and preaches for folks to focus on themselves; to know yourself to overcome your struggles and let go of anger via forgiveness.
@Anomie no
i automatically have to accept god to be rebuilt as a man, according to you and jesse?
@4rthur i wouldn’t be able to show you or explain it so... 😬
i assume there are many men out there who'd love jesse's help, but at the same time are put off by the religious aspects that come along with it
are we talking the God Christians believe or must it be inclusive of other religions?
is it not possible to "rebuild the man" from the ground up, morals and value systems, motivations, life-goals, everything, without having to impose religious belief?
@Anomie no, it’s a natural thing. It happens at a level that you aren’t aware of but is realized later on. And that’s according to me, not Jesse.
hm. alright
I don’t believe in the indoctrination of religion or forcing it upon people
People can’t be brought to god they have to come to him.
what if they don't? are they not a man? are they evil?
Most churches and religious organizations mess their congregation up by trying to “lead a horse to water who doesn’t want to drink.”
that's true
If they don’t then they will live missing that link and wholeness in their life. It’s a different experience with each person I’d say. And if people don’t want to come to god and are comfortable where they are, that’s fine too.
I won’t think less of them for it.
but they can't be a man?
some might say that's thinking less of them for it
No, they can pretend to be a man but the holes and their hunger for wholeness is still there. That doesn’t mean I think less of a person for it, I know they’re doing the best they can. If they want help and I can help them then great. I’ll show them love regardless.
i hope, when you do start to help someone or if someone confides in you, they don't feel any judgment off the back of that. i hope they'll be ignorant of the fact that you live by this distinction, because, if they are sincere with their will to change but at the same time they don't want to or just can't accept god sincerely yet, then you might still be able to help them. if they get a whiff of judgment or being categorised or up against the silent knowledge that, if they haven't accepted some religious doctrine, then they're not really "one" with you, it can be so much more difficult to be effective