Calling fetal alcohol syndrome genetic is pretty weird, considering that it's pretty much in the name itself that it's about exposure to alcohol while still in the womb, not about pairing of the genetic materials. It's about environment the cells are subjected to, making the body develop differently despite of the genes. It's like transgender hormone therapy... and that doesn't make you change your biological sex anymore than fetal alcohol syndrome changes your genetic make-up.

I didn't mix those two up, that's your strawman

Why did you switch to the other, then?

I never followed your "logic".

And what's your explanation to this?

How does alcohol during pregnancy cause damage to genes?

Just because it's damaged development doesn't automatically mean it's damaged genes.

You claim gene pool is damaged because of drinking during pregnancy. Defend yourself, retard.

@ETBrooD Let's ping you so you know you have some explaining to do.

Or explain this:

This is some New-Age version of science.

I gave the FAS as an example to show that alcohol consumption can cause genetic damage because you rejected my claim that better nutrition causes better genes. I asked you to explain FAS so that you'd be forced to admit that (but you refused to answer the question).
https://gyazo.com/09642a4b102e3a59152f3e6172cb37e9

This is Kraut levels of nonsense.
**ACADEMICS PLEASE RESPOND.**

Since you straight up rejected the claim that nutrition causes any better genes at all, I could only continue my case of damage to the genes being heritable through nutritional deficiencies by addressing your initial rejection first.

How is FAS damaging **genes** come up in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_spectrum_disorder
(or do I misremember you linking to Wikipedia earlier)

The wiki you linked to disagrees with your claim that FAS causes **genetic** damage.

One last time. Listen carefully.

It only talks about brain damage, nervous system damage, structural damage, etc. Not genetic.

How
Does
FAS
Damage
Genes?

My argument was not that the FAS causes genetic damage, by argument was that the FAS is an example of genetic damage caused by malnutrition.

Why does wiki disagree with you?

my*

So FAS doesn't cause genetic damage but FAS is example of genetic damage?

Yes

FAS is not genetic damage.

FAS is not genetic at all.

It's developmental.

It's like injecting estrogen into your veins. Might make tits grow but doesn't change you to XX.

So you straight up reject that malnutrition can cause genetic damage?

**YES.**

Damage is done to the cells, not really to genes.

And if you damage the genes with malnutrition or addition of carcinogens, you get cancer, not FAS or lowered IQ.

Mutations are random.

Malnutrition does not allow cells to function and replicate the way they should, so malnourished children will not grow as tall or as intelligent. But that's not because malnutrition damaged their genes.

If malnutrition caused gene damage, the children would develop cancer. Yet... cancer is a problem of the developed world, not the 3rd world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_damage_%28naturally_occurring%29
https://gyazo.com/b075a93bd9ab35e21e76d50eba58ceca

@ETBrooD That Wiki article does not contain word "malnutrition" or "malnourishment" in it.

If you spent half the time you waste here studying genetics and oncology, you'd both be experts and you wouldn't both look like autists.

So malnourishment **DOES NOT CAUSE GENE DAMAGE**. Why are you linking to that? You were supposed to prove the reverse. You fucking dullard.

Correction: the inverse

I was talking about both malnourishment and bad nutrition